(December 11, 2014 at 3:58 pm)abaris Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 3:32 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: As the Bible teaches, you existed long before your body was created and you'll exist long after it is gone. the only one with the power to destroy your essence is God.

And the Edda teaches us something different.

Quote: Unfettered will fare the Fenris Wolf
and ravaged the realm of men,
ere that cometh a kingly prince
as good, to stand in his stead.

So what's your point, since both are tales of the gods.

Quote:Ezekiel 1
10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

Quote:Revelation 4
And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle

Quote:Also the Sphinx on the Giza plateau fits into the grander picture of Hancock and Bauval’s theory. The Sphinx faces East at the exact location where the Sun rises on the day of the vernal equinox (21 March). At sunrise on the vernal equinox around 10.500 B.C. the Sun aligned itself with the constellation Leo, its own celestial counterpart image in the sky! Analysis of the Sphinx tells us that it symbolizes all of the four cardinal signs on the Zodiacal wheel, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius and Scorpio (the latter sign is often depicted as an eagle). The Sphinx has the body of a bull (Taurus), the wings of an eagle (Scorpio) the face of a man (Aquarius, water bearer) and an overall appearance of a lion (Leo)

(December 11, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 3:58 pm)abaris Wrote: And the Edda teaches us something different.


So what's your point, since both are tales of the gods.

You should learn a little something about the history of religion.

before there were scriptures, there was the oral tradition, in fact the zodiac is a representation of the Bible, proving that at one point in time, everyone was on the same page.

for example, you have virgo the virgin (this one is obvious), scorpio used to be symbolized as an eagle in ancient times (http://www.cafeastrology.com/zodiacscorpio.html), so you have scorpio (eagle) tarus (bull) leo (lion) aquarius (man) representing the 4 beasts.

Quote:Ezekiel 1
10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

Quote:Revelation 4
And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle

As a side note, these 4 signs are connected with the Great Pyramid of Giza
http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/Giza.html

Quote:Also the Sphinx on the Giza plateau fits into the grander picture of Hancock and Bauval’s theory. The Sphinx faces East at the exact location where the Sun rises on the day of the vernal equinox (21 March). At sunrise on the vernal equinox around 10.500 B.C. the Sun aligned itself with the constellation Leo, its own celestial counterpart image in the sky! Analysis of the Sphinx tells us that it symbolizes all of the four cardinal signs on the Zodiacal wheel, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius and Scorpio (the latter sign is often depicted as an eagle). The Sphinx has the body of a bull (Taurus), the wings of an eagle (Scorpio) the face of a man (Aquarius, water bearer) and an overall appearance of a lion (Leo)

The establishment of Babel (Babylon, a great civilization of ancient times), ushered in Polytheism which spread from Babel into Egypt, from Egypt to Greece, and from Greece into the world.

My point is, every polytheistic religion can be traced back to Babel.

(December 11, 2014 at 4:04 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 3:55 pm)Stimbo Wrote: The bible: the last resort of a dying argument.

Actually the Bible should be the first resort for any Christian, seeing how that is the basis of their belief.

(December 11, 2014 at 4:04 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: But I used the Bible in this instance to show that the axiom "energy cannot be created or destroyed" was essentially contained in the Bible all along.

(December 11, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 3:58 pm)abaris Wrote: And the Edda teaches us something different.


So what's your point, since both are tales of the gods.

You should learn a little something about the history of religion.

(December 11, 2014 at 4:40 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: My point is, every polytheistic religion can be traced back to Babel.

(December 11, 2014 at 6:16 pm)pocaracas Wrote: I'd guess that every religion can be traced "back" to astrology...

(December 11, 2014 at 4:52 pm)abaris Wrote: Source please.

It's obvious bull, since there have been politheistic religions everywhere on this world that predate the first higher cultures.

Quote:Mesopotamia (/ˌmɛsəpəˈteɪmiə/, from the Ancient Greek: Μεσοποταμία "[land] between rivers"; Arabic: بلاد الرافدين‎ (bilād al-rāfidayn); Syriac: ܒܝܬ ܢܗܪܝܢ (Beth Nahrain) "land of rivers") is a name for the area of the Tigris–Euphrates river system, corresponding to modern-day Iraq, Kuwait, the northeastern section of Syria and to a much lesser extent southeastern Turkey and smaller parts of southwestern Iran.
Widely considered to be the cradle of civilization in the West, Bronze Age Mesopotamia included Sumer and the Akkadian, Babylonian, and Assyrian empires, all native to the territory of modern-day Iraq. In the Iron Age, it was controlled by the Neo-Assyrian and Neo-Babylonian empires. The indigenous Sumerians and Akkadians (including Assyrians and Babylonians) dominated Mesopotamia from the beginning of written history (c. 3100 BC) to the fall of Babylon in 539 BC, when it was conquered by the Achaemenid Empire. It fell to Alexander the Great in 332 BC, and after his death, it became part of the Greek Seleucid Empire.

Quote:Located about 60 miles (100 kilometers) south of Baghdad in modern-day Iraq, the ancient city of Babylon served for nearly two millennia as a center of Mesopotamian civilization.

Quote:The Greek form Babylon (Βαβυλών) is an adaptation of Akkadian Babili. The Babylonian name as it stood in the 1st millennium BC had been changed from an earlier Babilli in early 2nd millennium BC, meaning "Gate of God" or "Gateway of the God" (bāb-ili) by popular etymology.

Quote:Babylon, hitherto a minor city, eclipsed Nippur as the "holy city" of Mesopotamia around the time an Amorite king named Hammurabi first created the short lived Babylonian Empire in the 18th century BC. Babylon grew and South Mesopotamia came to be known as Babylonia.

Quote:Semiramis became known as the fertility goddess Ishtar. She took on many names in different cultures including Isis, Diana, Astarte, Ishtar, Aphrodite, Venus, and Easter. She was even identified with Mary as Mary was falsely deified and took on the titles “Mother of God” and “Queen of Heaven”. Her son Tammuz took on many names as well such as Horus, Apollo, Sol, Krishna, Hercules, Mithra, and finally Jesus. The name Jesus H. Christ, in fact, originated by Constantine as Hesus Horus Krishna. “Hesus Horus Krishna” evolved into Jesus H. Christ over the years. All names of Tammuz put together for the son of the sungod and member of the Trinity worshipped on Sunday the day of his sungod.

Quote:Semiramis instituted a holy day in her Babylonian religion in honor of the supposed “death/resurrection” of her son Tammuz. Below is a picture of the Semiramis and Tammuz, the “Modonna/Child” and “Mary/Jesus”

Quote:Jeremiah 44
15 Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying,
16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee.
17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.
18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.
19 And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?

Quote:Job 19:25
For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

Quote:Hebrews 11
8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
10 For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

(December 11, 2014 at 6:16 pm)pocaracas Wrote: I'd guess that every religion can be traced "back" to astrology...

Quote:Adonis (/əˈdɒnɪs, əˈdoʊnɪs/; Greek: Ἄδωνις), in Greek mythology, is the god of beauty and desire, and is a central figure in various mystery religions

Quote:The Greek Ἄδωνις (Greek pronunciation: [ádɔːnis]), Adōnis was a borrowing from the Canaanite word ʼadōn, meaning "lord",[2][3] which is related to Adonai, one of the names used to refer to the god (אֲדֹנָי) of the Hebrew Bible and still used in Judaism to the present day.[3] Syrian Adonis is Gauas[4] or Aos, akin to Egyptian Osiris, the Semitic Tammuz and Baal Hadad, the Etruscan Atunis and the Phrygian Attis, all of whom are deities of rebirth and vegetation (see life-death-rebirth deity).

Adonis is the Hellenized form of the Phoenician word "adoni", meaning "my lord". It is believed that the cult of Adonis was known to the Greeks from around the sixth century B.C., but it is unquestionable that they came to know it through contact with Cyprus. Around this time, the cult of Adonis is noted in the Book of Ezekiel in Jerusalem, though under the Babylonian name Tammuz

(December 12, 2014 at 2:12 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Hence, tracing Greek mythology back to Babylon.