(January 8, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Godschild Wrote: My new identity comes with a new name too, while those in hell will retain their old name and memories and they will only be able to focus on the bad ones they created. Alzheimer's sound like a blessing compared to a life in hell.

GC

The only thing that ever appealed to me about the concept of heaven was to be reunited with my loved ones. Not to be brainwashed. If that's what they tought me as a child, I would have dropped the faith a lot sooner than I actually did.

(January 8, 2015 at 4:48 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I've can honestly say I've never heard a Christian put forth the idea that they want to have their minds tampered with and their identity compromised by their God.

Neither is true, just your way of wording a blessing so it sounds bad, jealousy is what you have, heaven can be your's too.

GC

(January 8, 2015 at 4:53 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(January 8, 2015 at 4:48 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I've can honestly say I've never heard a Christian put forth the idea that they want to have their minds tampered with and their identity compromised by their God.

Neither is true, just your way of wording a blessing so it sounds bad, jealousy is what you have, heaven can be your's too.

GC

Sure thing GC. Wiping away part of your memory isn't tampering at alll.

Feel free to enjoy your lobotomized happy place, I'll pass, thanks.

(January 8, 2015 at 4:50 pm)abaris Wrote: Honestly, now you're starting to contradict yourself within the same page. You just said, your life was great after you kicked the habbit.

It is great compared to addiction, but that doesn't mean it can't get better yet!

I'm not the same person I was last year, or ten years ago, or thirty years ago. I won't be the same person ten years from now, or twenty years from now, or in the next life. So what?

(January 8, 2015 at 4:52 pm)abaris Wrote:

(January 8, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Godschild Wrote: My new identity comes with a new name too, while those in hell will retain their old name and memories and they will only be able to focus on the bad ones they created. Alzheimer's sound like a blessing compared to a life in hell.

GC

The only thing that ever appealed to me about the concept of heaven was to be reunited with my loved ones. Not to be brainwashed. If that's what they tought me as a child, I would have dropped the faith a lot sooner than I actually did.

That reunion want happen unless you come back, and they will have a new mind, new life, new name, new body and a new and better understanding of who they accepted as their Savior.

GC

So they will literally not be your family anymore.

(January 8, 2015 at 4:50 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(January 8, 2015 at 4:46 pm)abaris Wrote: To lose ones identity? Sounds as delicious as Altzheimer's.

My new identity comes with a new name too, while those in hell will retain their old name and memories and they will only be able to focus on the bad ones they created. Alzheimer's sound like a blessing compared to a life in hell.

GC

And this quote right here exemplifies why I'm an Atheist. You heard it first here, folks. Alzheimer's is now a blessing.

GC, you do of course realize that hell isn't a concept that Atheists believe in right? Repeatedly condemning us to hell doesn't make your points more valid, right? It just goes to show that you are willing to undervalue legitimate diseases in the name of your God. That's why Atheists want evidence of a God. We're not being dicks about it. Religion calls for an unrealistic approach on life; everything we have ever known is nothing compared to hell. Sure, underplay the severity of every single hardship, ever. That's cool.

(January 8, 2015 at 4:57 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: So they will literally not be your family anymore.

This. So much this.

(January 8, 2015 at 3:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: To my fellow Christians why do you try and explain God through the only process these people will accept, when you know that God doesn't accept their way of, as they put it, "we need absolute proof of God," thinking. You know good and well what the scriptures say,"we are to testify to why we believe," none of use came to belief because we had absolute proof of God and we can't offer anything other than what scripture says and our personal experiences.

My guess is that your fellow Christians in this thread enjoy a good debate just like the atheists do.

In before the "everybody-in-heaven-is-now-your-family" post.