(January 10, 2015 at 7:17 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The point is N, you dismiss the child as not capable of making the correct answer, which is unfair. I know, for example,
that a child can make the right choice for the right reasons.

I still don't understand your point about three year olds. Three year olds still engage in magical thinking. It is easy for an adult to convince such very young children of nearly anything. That is why they believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy.

(January 10, 2015 at 5:05 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(January 10, 2015 at 5:04 pm)Nope Wrote: My favorite mythological being is Loki, so the existence of a trickster god would n't bother me at all. LOL

Loki would be best god.. well hmm.. thor

And why didn't he tell the vikings not to plunder and loot? Like you say the Christian god should've stopped slavery. Or was he just a cool dude who brought lightning and everything flashy?

(January 10, 2015 at 10:35 pm)Grasshopper Wrote:

(January 10, 2015 at 5:05 pm)dyresand Wrote: Loki would be best god.. well hmm.. thor

And why didn't he tell the vikings not to plunder and loot? Like you say the Christian god should've stopped slavery. Or was he just a cool dude who brought lightning and everything flashy?

Well, Loki isn't omnipotent or all knowing and he is sort of an ass sometimes. Any god that can turn into a female horse and make eight legged babies is all right with me.

We probably need a mythological thread.

(January 10, 2015 at 10:35 pm)Grasshopper Wrote: And why didn't he tell the vikings not to plunder and loot?

Because he wasn't a moral examplar or lawgiver? Quite the opposite. He was a shameful disgrace of a man by their cultures standards, but also the ideal of a warrior (which was very highly valued). Might have had something to do with expressing the duality of man, or the foolishness of judging the man before you by his everyday life...rather than his example in combat. A flawed and ultimately mortal character (the norse gods die in the end, and so do we - the "good guys" lose). Ultimately, we'll never really know, because christian civ rewrote significant portions of this narrative and they weren't even trying to hide it (or weren't half as clever as they thought themselves to be)...and so it, like many other pagan narratives (and for the same reason, no less) is unreliable. The norse had a different god-concept, almost nothing translates with judeo-christian concepts...and they seem to have used their gods a different way than you hope to use yours. Of course....Thor also didn't tell people not to plunder and loot for the same reason that your god failed in this (and many other regards) because he isn't real, and exists only as a reflection of the culture that created him (insomuch as your predecessors left that intact - always uneasy with other peoples fairy tales, if you ask me, demonstrating the current of self-doubt that has always been with the christian faith). To be fair to the civ though (the norse civ - fuck yall)...they did more trading and farming than plundering and looting -by far. The main reason history remembers them as plunderers and looters primarily is because they stole from/killed christians....more specifically christian churches and monastaries- and you fellas are some whiny sons-a-bitches when the shoe is on the other foot.

Any more questions regarding the pantheons of others relative to your own?

(January 10, 2015 at 10:39 pm)Nope Wrote:

(January 10, 2015 at 10:35 pm)Grasshopper Wrote: And why didn't he tell the vikings not to plunder and loot? Like you say the Christian god should've stopped slavery. Or was he just a cool dude who brought lightning and everything flashy?

Well, Loki isn't omnipotent or all knowing and he is sort of an ass sometimes. Any god that can turn into a female horse and make eight legged babies is all right with me.

We probably need a mythological thread.

Yeah loki doesn't do lightning either. I was speaking about Thor . . . Or hoe 'bout Odin?

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As far as I know Odin was the righteous one. But still I'd say the vikings did wreak a great deal of havoc on Christians, especially the monasteries

(January 10, 2015 at 10:47 pm)Grasshopper Wrote:

(January 10, 2015 at 10:39 pm)Nope Wrote: Well, Loki isn't omnipotent or all knowing and he is sort of an ass sometimes. Any god that can turn into a female horse and make eight legged babies is all right with me.

We probably need a mythological thread.

Yeah loki doesn't do lightning either. I was speaking about Thor . . . Or hoe 'bout Odin?

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As far as I know Odin was the righteous one. But still I'd say the vikings did wreak a great deal of havoc on Christians, especially the monasteries

Vikings have the better religion.

(January 10, 2015 at 11:04 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(January 10, 2015 at 10:47 pm)Grasshopper Wrote: Yeah loki doesn't do lightning either. I was speaking about Thor . . . Or hoe 'bout Odin?

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As far as I know Odin was the righteous one. But still I'd say the vikings did wreak a great deal of havoc on Christians, especially the monasteries

Vikings have the better religion.

That an opinion or statement? Pointless either way

(January 10, 2015 at 11:09 pm)Grasshopper Wrote:

(January 10, 2015 at 11:04 pm)dyresand Wrote: Vikings have the better religion.

That an opinion or statement? Pointless either way

That's a statement. Their gods didn't kill humans needlessly without reason. And even Thor when gods and evil things were going to kill humans saved them.

(January 10, 2015 at 11:49 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(January 10, 2015 at 11:09 pm)Grasshopper Wrote: That an opinion or statement? Pointless either way

That's a statement. Their gods didn't kill humans needlessly without reason. And even Thor when gods and evil things were going to kill humans saved them.

And human sacrifice.
Now I realize new atheism is just anti Christianity.

(January 11, 2015 at 12:12 am)Grasshopper Wrote:

(January 10, 2015 at 11:49 pm)dyresand Wrote: That's a statement. Their gods didn't kill humans needlessly without reason. And even Thor when gods and evil things were going to kill humans saved them.

And human sacrifice.
Now I realize new atheism is just anti Christianity.

Um no were just anti stupid. We just don't believe in god. Like most of the newer generations that are growing up are most likely going to be atheists because well religion only can be around for so long and children guess what are smart and they know fact from fiction.