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RE: Poll - 'Waiting for godot' a significant Philosophical Work?
January 15, 2015 at 8:07 pm
(January 15, 2015 at 4:14 pm)ManMachine Wrote: (January 15, 2015 at 1:02 pm)bennyboy Wrote: This is not really a hot topic in philosophy is it? What, did you just read it in a college lit class or something?
What isn't a hot topic, Beckett as a philosopher or his perceived absurdism?
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RE: Poll - 'Waiting for godot' a significant Philosophical Work?
January 15, 2015 at 8:10 pm
Um, Waiting For Godot isn't a philosophical work in itself. Granted, it's hard to write about it without turning your article into a philosophical treatise, but the play itself makes no theses. The reader just infers a philosophical meaning behind it because the actions on stage (by design) make no sense.
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RE: Poll - 'Waiting for godot' a significant Philosophical Work?
January 15, 2015 at 9:58 pm
(January 15, 2015 at 8:10 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Um, Waiting For Godot isn't a philosophical work in itself. Granted, it's hard to write about it without turning your article into a philosophical treatise, but the play itself makes no theses. The reader just infers a philosophical meaning behind it because the actions on stage (by design) make no sense.
I'm not sure I agree at all with your opening statement, I personally think it is deliberately a philosophical work, so does Professor Knowlson, Beckett's Friend and official Biographer, he said 'It asks all the big philosophical questions - about life and death and the uncertain purpose of what goes on in between - but in a way that isn't limited to a particular place or era.'
I accept this hardly makes it a treatise, but that wasn't my question. I asked if it is a significant philosophical work, that a lot broader.
I would also argue that the actions on stage do ultimately make sense and a number of significant themes emerge (see my reply to Chas).
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RE: Poll - 'Waiting for godot' a significant Philosophical Work?
January 15, 2015 at 10:44 pm
(January 15, 2015 at 9:58 pm)ManMachine Wrote: I'm not sure I agree at all with your opening statement, I personally think it is deliberately a philosophical work, so does Professor Knowlson, Beckett's Friend and official Biographer, he said 'It asks all the big philosophical questions - about life and death and the uncertain purpose of what goes on in between - but in a way that isn't limited to a particular place or era.'
MM Really, I think there's a difference between something asking questions about life and something making the viewers ask questions about life.
By the same logic you use, A Serbian Film would be a film about the history of Post-Cold-War Serbia, and not just a snuff film that uses its horrors as a metaphor for life in Serbia after the Cold War.
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RE: Poll - 'Waiting for godot' a significant Philosophical Work?
January 20, 2015 at 6:20 pm
(January 15, 2015 at 10:44 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (January 15, 2015 at 9:58 pm)ManMachine Wrote: I'm not sure I agree at all with your opening statement, I personally think it is deliberately a philosophical work, so does Professor Knowlson, Beckett's Friend and official Biographer, he said 'It asks all the big philosophical questions - about life and death and the uncertain purpose of what goes on in between - but in a way that isn't limited to a particular place or era.'
MM Really, I think there's a difference between something asking questions about life and something making the viewers ask questions about life.
By the same logic you use, A Serbian Film would be a film about the history of Post-Cold-War Serbia, and not just a snuff film that uses its horrors as a metaphor for life in Serbia after the Cold War.
Ok, I see what you are saying. I still think it valid to ask if people think its a significant philosophical work. I take your response as a no.
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RE: Poll - 'Waiting for godot' a significant Philosophical Work?
January 21, 2015 at 11:41 pm
(January 20, 2015 at 6:20 pm)ManMachine Wrote: (January 15, 2015 at 10:44 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Really, I think there's a difference between something asking questions about life and something making the viewers ask questions about life.
By the same logic you use, A Serbian Film would be a film about the history of Post-Cold-War Serbia, and not just a snuff film that uses its horrors as a metaphor for life in Serbia after the Cold War.
Ok, I see what you are saying. I still think it valid to ask if people think its a significant philosophical work. I take your response as a no.
MM I don't deny your right to ask if it is a philosophical work. I'm just saying, I don't think it is.
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