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RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 21, 2015 at 4:36 am
Right. It's kind of like the "death penalty" for your soul. A punishment that can't be taken back.
Except much worse, because your body is still alive, and if you really believe this stuff, you have absolutely no reason to try and be a good person at all. You may as well "enjoy your life" as much as possible before your inevitable trip to hell.
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RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 21, 2015 at 1:25 pm
(This post was last modified: February 21, 2015 at 1:29 pm by robvalue.)
Hah, I see no christians want to bite into this one.
The holy spirit is a piece of shit.
Is there any point me becoming christian now? I can't be saved. May as well go around ripping off candy from little kids and drawing rude pictures on windows.
Kind of a dumb rule.
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RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 21, 2015 at 7:56 pm
(This post was last modified: February 21, 2015 at 8:00 pm by orangebox21.)
(February 20, 2015 at 4:47 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: (February 20, 2015 at 4:41 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Yes.
Can they sin intentionally or only "accidentally"? By this, I mean, at the time they're doing it, they weren't thinking about it consciously as a sin. Picture the difference between a person taking God's name in vain when they hit their thumb with a hammer as opposed to them saying it intentionally as part of a conversation. By "can they" do you mean is it possible, or is it allowed (morally)? Yes it is possible for a Christian to sin intentionally and accidentally. No it is not allowed (morally).
(February 20, 2015 at 5:03 pm)robvalue Wrote: I've talked so much smack about that dumbass Holy Spirit that I'm fucked. So I've no incentive to even bother repenting, right?
Kind of serious question. Once you do that, the game is up and you might as well all-you-can-sin? No, for two reasons.
First, the specifics of what blaspheming the Holy Spirit entails is debated among theologians. That being said I will never advise a person he/she is beyond salvation no matter what he/she has done.
Secondly, if in fact you are in a position unable to be forgiven, then multiplying your sins will multiply your punishment. While hell is the final destination of all unbelievers, the degree of suffering is related to the life of the unbeliever. The greater the crimes the greater the punishment.
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?
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RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 21, 2015 at 8:13 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 7:56 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: While hell is the final destination of all unbelievers, the degree of suffering is related to the life of the unbeliever. The greater the crimes the greater the punishment. What, a bigger fire? I thought hell was just not being with god.
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RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 21, 2015 at 8:13 pm
So, 10000 degree molten iron poured into your rectum instead of 5000 degree molten iron ??
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RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 21, 2015 at 8:30 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 7:56 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: First, the specifics of what blaspheming the Holy Spirit entails is debated among theologians.
Theologians can argue about it all they want, but I think it just simply means to question the divine authority of the Holy Spirit (and imply that it is from Satan instead). The context of why Jesus warned against blaspheming the Holy Spirit in the Gospels was because his power to heal and drive out demons was being attributed to the devil when instead he was doing it by the power of the Holy Spirit.
So if I reject the divine authority of the Holy Spirit (which I do), then I have already blasphemed the Holy Spirit. And therefore, I am in an unforgivable state.
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RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 23, 2015 at 11:49 am
(February 21, 2015 at 7:56 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: (February 20, 2015 at 4:47 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: Can they sin intentionally or only "accidentally"? By this, I mean, at the time they're doing it, they weren't thinking about it consciously as a sin. Picture the difference between a person taking God's name in vain when they hit their thumb with a hammer as opposed to them saying it intentionally as part of a conversation. By "can they" do you mean is it possible, or is it allowed (morally)? Yes it is possible for a Christian to sin intentionally and accidentally. No it is not allowed (morally).
What I mean is, if a person is saved, what happens if they deliberately take God's name in vain (or lie, or steal, or commit adultery, or whatever)? Assuming their sin isn't blaspheming the Holy Spirit, it seems that it is forgivable.
What does it take for the sin to be forgiven? At what point is it forgiven (some imply it was already forgiven 2,000 years ago)? How does this affect people going to heaven?
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RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 23, 2015 at 4:44 pm
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?
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RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 23, 2015 at 4:46 pm
I just beat the Holy Spirit to death with a barbed wire metaphysical baseball bat. It was an accident. Am I still good with the boss? He's got more of those, right?
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RE: You CAN game Christian morality
February 23, 2015 at 4:53 pm
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2015 at 5:06 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
Blasphemy is unforgiveable?
God- damn, I'm screwed.
(February 19, 2015 at 1:25 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: A penitant blames no one else for his condition, but rather condemns himself under God’s eternal wrath because he deserves it.
This is sickening about Christianity: it preaches self-loathing.
(February 19, 2015 at 3:23 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Am I the only one that can't for the life of me decipher Emily's posts? Can someone translate?
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You're not alone, brotha. One reason I so rarely interacted with her is that her points were as straightforward as overdone pasta.
(February 20, 2015 at 5:03 pm)robvalue Wrote: I've talked so much smack about that dumbass Holy Spirit that I'm fucked. So I've no incentive to even bother repenting, right?
Kind of serious question. Once you do that, the game is up and you might as well all-you-can-sin?
I'll meet you in Vegas for hookers and blow, brotha.
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