(February 23, 2015 at 4:49 pm)Chad32 Wrote:

(February 23, 2015 at 4:38 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why do you think He did so, or are you just repeating things you've heard, do you have an intelligent answer, or will it be the same old tired same old.

GC

Because he's extremely violent and self centered. He's a volcanic war god, after all. Or at least he used to be.

You can prove this, right, no one else has ever been able to, I'm speaking to all three assertions.

Quote:He completely abandons Adam and Eve as soon as they do something he doesn't like. the most he tells them is "don't do it, or you'll die". That's nice. You want to explain what die means?

I've said many time to you that you have no idea what the Bible says, you are a parrot of the unintelligent, I think you can do better, please try.
Abandoned them, really. He came to them, asking why thy were hiding, even though He knew, like a father He wanted to give them a chance to come clean. God wouldn't have told them about death without an explanation, you do remember He walked with them in the cool of the evening and they indicate they understand what death meant, they never questioned it. Please try using your own brain and stop parroting others.

Quote:Then he wipes out the world because fallen angels were raping women and breeding evil Humans.

That's not what the scriptures say, they do say He judged mankind guilty of total corruption and there was no hope for their redemption.

Quote: I don't know what he was doing in the meantime, or what the fallen angels were doing that turned all the demi angels evil, but he wiped them out.

You are defining what the Bible calls the sons of God as fallen angels, the Bible gives no hint of this definition. Did you come up with this one on your own, sounds like parroting again.

Quote:He messed with the language of a bunch of people because he felt threatened by a tower.

Right the God who can cause all the people to start speaking different languages felt threatened, parroting again. God was preventing the total corruption of man until a future time. it's quite obvious what the scriptures say on this.

Quote:He brought slaves out of Egypt after making sure they weren't released before he had the chance to kill a bunch of children, down to the young of slaves and animals.

Again you show how little you know of the scriptures and the more you post the more convinced I become you are a parrot only.
God gave Pharaoh several chances to let His people go, Pharaoh was not given any set amount of chances. God hardened his heart to prove to Pharaoh and Egypt that He was the Most High and powerful God and none of his stone and wooden gods could help him. Egypt paid the penalty of disobedience of God.

Quote: Then he had Moses kill some of his followers for breaking a rule he came up with after they decided to start worshiping another god of their pantheon, as polytheists tend to do sometimes.

They were guilty of Egypt's and Pharaoh's sin, believing there were other gods, especially after seeing what God did for them in Egypt. Their punishment came because they refused to repent, unforgiven sin against a forgiving God.

Quote: then he had them kill people who inhabited land he wanted to give to his followers.

That was the place God had chosen for them and promised to them, these people abandoned God at the Tower of Babel and continued to worship wood and stone. These people were punished because of their ungodly acts against the only God, they were judged guilty by their creator, the One they rejected.

Quote:The old testament is filled with violence, and all to supposedly raise up one group of people, because he made friends with a guy once and promised him a long lineage.

The whole world was filled with violence then and now, most of which has nothing to do with God, most of it is because there's no belief in the God who created. The OT shows the violence that man brought to this world and about the One who was coming to redeem mankind. God did choose Abraham as a friend, He did so to raise up a people to show the world the Savior of all peoples.

Quote: I don't know why he does it, except to say he's a psychopath who acts as many people do when there's no one around to dope slap them if they do something wrong.

The reason you do not know is because it's easier to parrot than to actually study and learn.

GC

Your god is a fiction, a sex toy you use to masturbate.

I don't get it GC you still without any factual proof still deny science and everything that smart people and physicists proven and even people working in biology
that figure out and give us information on how things came to be and you still deny it in favor of ignorance. I don't get it i really do not get it and you say god has written words
onto your heart last time i checked a god or any gods do not exist and for one anyone can say something absurd like you can without proof and claim that this all powerful being
god exists. But hold on if god exists outside the universe and is all powerful for a moment lets take E=mc2 so that's what ill be working with. Most not if all christians agree that god has
infinite power so yeah infinite energy and mass so if he has infinite energy he would have infinite mass as well and compressing all that energy down into a human like being god would simply
collapse in on himself. Next argument would be how would god exist outside of something what type of plane of existence he is in heaven and hell are proven not to exist so you have 10 of them
pick one. Next would be since god has infinite energy and he isn't in a state of being mass or converting into mass why can't we detect some energy wave length or anything like it. Lastly
explain this... if god is all knowing and knows all past future and present events and given that we as people if god existed have a false sense of freedom why is it that god created a universe
with a set instructions for the events to play out the way it does with no change what so ever and still have the nerve to want people to love him. Because if a creator done something like that doesn't
that beat the purpose of being good creating a world and events to play out as a all knowing being would want it to be. Bonus question why is god allowing his own creation to die of heat death due to entropy
and do nothing about it and or to slow it down and stop it.

No matter what we believe in, being real or not, as long as it makes us happy and doesn't hurt others, there is nothing wrong in that belief. If that belief also makes us a good person, then again there is nothing wrong in that, I hear all the time atheist who are miserable and even afraid of death, this is because they have missed the boat, they have thrown the baby out with the bathwater, their lives are dry, no poetry, no mystery about the world, just knowledge that they worship.

There is no baby, that's the point :p

Personally I've noticed no difference in happiness between theists and atheists. Sounds like you've run into a lot who are down on their luck.

I agree, if the beliefs don't hurt anyone, then it's all good. That is far from the case now, and it's why I try to do my bit to speak out against the harm religion is doing.

(February 24, 2015 at 2:51 am)psychoslice Wrote: No matter what we believe in, being real or not, as long as it makes us happy and doesn't hurt others, there is nothing wrong in that belief. If that belief also makes us a good person, then again there is nothing wrong in that, I hear all the time atheist who are miserable and even afraid of death, this is because they have missed the boat, they have thrown the baby out with the bathwater, their lives are dry, no poetry, no mystery about the world, just knowledge that they worship.

Nah i am not afraid to die i know what's going to happen to me. I am going to enjoy life as much as i can

(February 24, 2015 at 2:54 am)robvalue Wrote: There is no baby, that's the point :p

Personally I've noticed no difference in happiness between theists and atheists. Sounds like you've run into a lot who are down on their luck.

Probably, but to run down others beliefs for your own benefit, is stupid and childish to me, and I don't believe in god either.

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(February 24, 2015 at 2:56 am)dyresand Wrote:

(February 24, 2015 at 2:51 am)psychoslice Wrote: No matter what we believe in, being real or not, as long as it makes us happy and doesn't hurt others, there is nothing wrong in that belief. If that belief also makes us a good person, then again there is nothing wrong in that, I hear all the time atheist who are miserable and even afraid of death, this is because they have missed the boat, they have thrown the baby out with the bathwater, their lives are dry, no poetry, no mystery about the world, just knowledge that they worship.

Nah i am not afraid to die i know what's going to happen to me. I am going to enjoy life as much as i can

Good on you, I'm the same, my life didn't start until I left religion, but still there were many who loved their religion. I was a Seventh day Adventist, and it is known that Adventist live longer than most, because of their diet and contentment.

Who is running down belief systems for their own benefit?

I think religious people are the culprits here, they are all literally saying every other religion is wrong and usually its adherents deserve eternal punishment. Atheists could never match that! We just say "evidence please".

(February 24, 2015 at 2:57 am)psychoslice Wrote: Good on you, I'm the same, my life didn't start until I left religion, but still there were many who loved their religion. I was a Seventh day Adventist, and it is known that Adventist live longer than most, because of their diet and contentment.

Baptist for a short while as a child and...well.... it wasn't so bad in my circle i was in. In the other circles like WBC and other other wackos i do not like them.

(February 24, 2015 at 2:51 am)psychoslice Wrote: [...]their lives are dry, no poetry, no mystery about the world, just knowledge that they worship.

... and then there are others who marvel at the nighttime skies, take joy in writing as well as hearing music, and don't worship anything ... even knowledge.

Tell us what you know about poetry. Give us a picture, drawn in words, colored by your insight, and presented to readers so that they can interpret it for themselves.

Me, I think you've bought a stereotype.