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#51
RE: Proof of God
March 3, 2015 at 11:16 pm
MM, you're equivocating different definitions of "nothingness."
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#52
RE: Proof of God
March 4, 2015 at 1:14 am
(February 27, 2015 at 1:57 am)Harris Wrote: Nothingness:
Nothingness can only produce non-existence, and so it cannot be the foundation of any ideology.



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#53
RE: Proof of God
March 4, 2015 at 3:46 am (This post was last modified: March 4, 2015 at 3:46 am by robvalue.)
I'm still waiting to hear how I'm meant to give thanks to this creator thing, Harris, whatever it may be.

Where do I go? What do I do? How can I know it is getting my message?
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#54
RE: Proof of God
March 4, 2015 at 3:50 am
(March 4, 2015 at 3:46 am)robvalue Wrote: I'm still waiting to hear how I'm meant to give thanks to this creator thing, Harris, whatever it may be.

Where do I go? What do I do? How can I know it is getting my message?

It depends.

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RE: Proof of God
March 4, 2015 at 4:11 am (This post was last modified: March 4, 2015 at 4:12 am by robvalue.)
Most likely Big Grin One started taking off his clothes, so I think that must have been the wrong one to see about this.

Since Harris gave me this advice I'm hoping he will take ownership of it and tell me what I'm actually meant to do.

Do I just think thankful thoughts?
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#56
RE: Proof of God
March 4, 2015 at 6:19 am
(March 3, 2015 at 9:50 am)Harris Wrote:
(February 27, 2015 at 4:14 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: No proof in OP.

Downvote.

What do you have in place of God?

No idea what that even is.
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RE: Proof of God
March 4, 2015 at 6:47 am
Why should we need anything in its place?
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RE: Proof of God
March 4, 2015 at 7:37 am (This post was last modified: March 4, 2015 at 7:39 am by ManMachine.)
(March 3, 2015 at 11:16 pm)Pizz-atheist Wrote: MM, you're equivocating different definitions of "nothingness."

No, I'm not. Don't get me wrong, I do understand the differences in those definitions but it's not necessary to distinguish them to make the theory work.

If you want the hard-science then you need to begin with the quantum vacuum but the soft theory (experimentally un-verifiable) is still reasonable, that is to say it can be reasoned.

For example, it is reasonable to assume at some point there could have been nothingness in the sense of a total absence of anything. We have some soft-theory on how that might give rise to a quantum vacuum from the likes of Victor J Stenger but we can never experimentally prove it, only mathematically.

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#59
RE: Proof of God
March 4, 2015 at 4:29 pm
So you're claiming the quantum vacuum is the first cause/uncaused cause? Okay that's a live option.
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RE: Proof of God
March 5, 2015 at 7:31 am
(March 4, 2015 at 4:29 pm)Pizz-atheist Wrote: So you're claiming the quantum vacuum is the first cause/uncaused cause? Okay that's a live option.
Deist inserts quantum woo in 3... 2... 1...
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