I'm convinced Drich. Now what do I do.

(March 9, 2015 at 11:26 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Y'know, if I was a guardian angel with magic powers, I wouldn't use sound to attract rescuers a half-a-day after the fact; I'd use telepathy to summon help immediately, because, well, that's my goddamned job.

These fucking angels nowadays ... what a bunch of slackers.

ETA: I'm sure there were no other sounds at the time which could not be mistaken for a woman's voice. None at all. I'm positive of it.

Well, at least Drich is. Me, I think there are plenty of ambient noises that could be mistaken for a human voice -- I've heard one or two, in the form of birds, before.

Gabriel appeared to Mary so that god could get her pregnant. Why wouldn't the angel pop into the police station and tell the rescuers to save the baby?

Why did Drich jump to the idea of a guardian angel anyway? The article doesn't say angel, it just says a voice. Among all the illogical things that could be believed, the folklore around a mother's ghost seems to fit the story more than an angel. I don't believe in ghosts, by the way and think that there is a more logical explanation but the mythology of ghosts seems to fit the story better than the mythology of guardian angels. Hell, a water spirit fits the story better than what religion has taught us about guardian angels. Drich, maybe you should become a Shintoist now.

(March 9, 2015 at 10:21 pm)Drich Wrote:

(March 9, 2015 at 10:06 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: Meanwhile. Guardian Angel was not available to save 20 Coptic Christians from getting their heads chopped off.

Wrong religion I suppose.

Coptic only signifies nationality/race of that particular brand of christianity. It would be similar to the term messianic jew.

Again, as above, what makes you think those brothers were entitled to any more life than they had already lived?

What makes you think they were not?

How is this any different than no guardian angels existing, at all? Sometimes they intervene, sometimes not. It's all mysterious ways woo.

Oh, come on, Drich. Don't be silly.

It was obviously aliens.

(March 10, 2015 at 10:26 am)JesusHChrist Wrote:

(March 9, 2015 at 10:21 pm)Drich Wrote: Coptic only signifies nationality/race of that particular brand of christianity. It would be similar to the term messianic jew.

Again, as above, what makes you think those brothers were entitled to any more life than they had already lived?

What makes you think they were not?

How is this any different than no guardian angels existing, at all? Sometimes they intervene, sometimes not. It's all mysterious ways woo.

Why punish murders if god is the one who decides who is going to live or die? Why fight back if someone enters your house and threatens to kill you?

So, a chain of cops, likely some paramedics, possibly on-lookers, where there's talking both in person and from various CB equipment, and we're supposed to believe that it's the voice of the mother's ghost or a guardian angel? While the 4 cops in question don't agree on the exact phrasing, and have a vested interest in trying to save the infant?

Man, it's almost as though people will hear what they want to hear in a situation like that. Which is, of course, impossible, since psychology is the work of the Devil.

(March 9, 2015 at 10:16 pm)Drich Wrote:

(March 9, 2015 at 9:56 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Two thoughts: first, humans also have voices with which to call for help. You have no justification at all for saying guardian angel.

Secondly, based on your logic, your thread title could equally fairly be written "guardian angel sits and watches woman die, ensuring her baby grows up without a parent, and then continues to watch that baby suffer for more than half a day before human beings, evidently more moral than angels, came to her rescue."

What would you perfer? Disembodied voice saved baby? Disembodied voice watch as woman died, because no one around heeded the call? Is a disembodied voice any less miricualious than a guardian angel?

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(March 9, 2015 at 10:01 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: Guardian Angel fails to keep protected car on road, loses wings. Film at 11:00.

what makes you think the woman in the story was allotted anymore time to live? Are you one of the foolish who believes everyone is entitled to 100 years of trouble free life?

How about religious police officer hears what he was hoping to hear?

Quote:Guardian angel saves baby.

I'm still wondering how: the angel, assuming it was there, sat and watched for fourteen hours, and didn't intervene in any detectable way until rescue crews were already there, trying to rescue the baby. What did the angel actually do, beyond conveniently doing the bare minimum to confirm what Drich already believes to be true?

(March 10, 2015 at 12:26 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I'm still wondering how: the angel, assuming it was there, sat and watched for fourteen hours, and didn't intervene in any detectable way until rescue crews were already there, trying to rescue the baby. What did the angel actually do, beyond conveniently doing the bare minimum to confirm what Drich already believes to be true?

What would be the point, anyway? The angel didn't help or even set the rescue in motion. He(no idea what gender angels are supposed to be) just cried for help? What good does that do?

Sound carries over water. The rescuers could have heard someone from farther away and assumed it was the woman. This must have been a highly stressful, emotional rescue for the people who were at the scene


Drich, I still would like to know how you jumped to a guardian angel and not a ghost or water spirit?

(March 9, 2015 at 10:21 pm)Drich Wrote: That's why I take pleasure in pointing to the story and three on scene witnesses (4 if you count the nbc story and the fisherman) who herd a woman's voice comming from the car. I know what you said and I know what you meant, but like it or not lax, your version does not fit the FACTS reported in the story.

Interesting that you went with guardian angel and not the dead mothers ghost.

That would have been my wifes go to woo.

Also

Did the car have a radio?

Was it on?