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RE: When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?
March 11, 2015 at 12:53 am
(March 9, 2015 at 7:03 pm)KUSA Wrote: (March 9, 2015 at 4:13 pm)Chas Wrote: After someone nukes them.
You beat me to it.
Reilgion is a highly invasive communicable disease. The disease is extremely resistant to treatment. Usually the only way to keep it from spreading is to quarantine and destroy the host.
Sad.
(March 9, 2015 at 4:47 pm)abaris Wrote: When they have first world problems.
Are you implying that it is an economic issue? Corrected.
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RE: When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?
March 11, 2015 at 5:08 am
(March 10, 2015 at 6:47 pm)Marsellus Wallace Wrote: hmm, it will probably take about 100-150 years, unless someone nukes them like chas mentioned, but don't nuke them now, I still live there 
2 days ago, I was talking to a guy who wanted to beat another guy for being gay, thats the middle fucking east right now.... ugh.
Ever wonder why africa and the middle east are so fucked up all the time ? cuz that part of the world services the rest of the world(mainly the west) best in its current state of poverty and ignorance. No one is gonna help them, and Angelina Jolie's good hearted attempts of helping are meaningless and not gonna make any change.
Hahaha, you gotta love that "macho man, so hetro chest hair" type in the Middle East I'm sure you'll notice it, Marsellus, even wearing a neckless or jewelry would make them judge you too and say the same stuff.
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RE: When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?
March 11, 2015 at 7:17 am
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I would guess there's a fair proportion of atheists all over there, that have to keep pretending for their own safety.
I feel for them, it must be wretched. I hope one day they can connect up properly.
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RE: When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?
March 11, 2015 at 8:19 am
I think not before these countries have proper democracies. I think in most countries it is not even possible to be openly atheists.
I remember a couple of years back protests were going on in Iran for freedom of speech and a more secular government. (If I remember correctly)
I do wonder how the situation is there now, and if the youth in Iran feels like they are getting an opportunity for this, or might get one in the near future.
If there is anyone from Iran on this forum that can tell me more about that, I would love to hear about it.
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RE: When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?
March 11, 2015 at 8:44 am
Given that declaring yourself a non-believer is literally taking your life in your hands in many of the countries involved it's AFAIK impossible to get any reliable stats to work on.
However based on the immigrant families in the UK there is a significant rate of apostacy amongst them. This is concealed due to the extreme reaction this can result in amongst muslims, however once individuals can escape a ghetto structure islam seems as vulnerable to deconversion as christianity.
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RE: When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?
March 11, 2015 at 12:16 pm
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I declared my Atheism in the United Arab Emirates; nothing happened. But if I wonder over to Saudi Arabia, which is next door to the UAE, I'd get beheaded.
Scary shit.
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RE: When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?
March 11, 2015 at 1:08 pm
Well you would have a better chances for America becoming mostly Atheist before the Middle East.
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RE: When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?
March 11, 2015 at 1:11 pm
(March 11, 2015 at 8:19 am)Aisha Wrote: I remember a couple of years back protests were going on in Iran for freedom of speech and a more secular government. (If I remember correctly)
I do wonder how the situation is there now, and if the youth in Iran feels like they are getting an opportunity for this, or might get one in the near future.
If there is anyone from Iran on this forum that can tell me more about that, I would love to hear about it.
I don't live there, but because I used to do so, I keep my eyes on the country, including maintaining contacts within the expatriate community here in America, who in turn hear from family members there regarding internal conditions.
They tell me that there is an underground life that goes on away from the stern eyes of the regime. The country is very young, demographically, and atheism/agnosticism amongst the youth is higher than we here in the west suspect. There's still the frustration with a lack of civil rights and the lack of a social voice that fueled the post-election unrest. The youth felt as if their votes didn't matter and took to the streets. They're angry over the economic doldrums that the regime's intransigence has brought upon the country, and want reform.
I think the government was shaken by those protests and that has caused them to permit an unofficial loosening -- but that the government will absolutely refuse to legally compromise the Islamic foundation of the state, for the simple reason that that will also compromise their own legitimacy to rule.
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RE: When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?
March 11, 2015 at 4:09 pm
Thank you for the info Parkers Tan. I am not surpised to hear there might be more Atheist youth there than we think.
I am glad to know that there is such an underground life, it gives hope for the future.
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When will the Middle East become majority Atheist?
March 11, 2015 at 9:01 pm
(March 11, 2015 at 12:53 am)Delysid Wrote: (March 9, 2015 at 7:03 pm)KUSA Wrote: You beat me to it.
Reilgion is a highly invasive communicable disease. The disease is extremely resistant to treatment. Usually the only way to keep it from spreading is to quarantine and destroy the host.
Sad.
Are you implying that it is an economic issue? Corrected.
I can't agree with you. Islam is the religion to fear. All others are more of a nuisance and inconvenience.
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