Sssshhhhhhhhh....

Must keep angel voice rescues secret.

Wouldn't want the word to get out there are angels among us.

Oops.

(March 10, 2015 at 5:53 pm)coldwx Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 5:05 pm)Drich Wrote: you didn't read the atical did you, yet you thought you somehow knew enough to contribute... seem like Atheism 101 applied to the rest of life.. Good job!

(Mom had been dead for 14 hours)

I did read the article, but did you? You know the mom was dead for 14 hours? Where does it say that she died on impact? And since the whole point of my post was that we don't know what happened, but you automatically assume a supernatural cause. There was a litany of other plausible natural causes for the so called voice. You don't really think through your posts do you? Kindly fuck off.

Pictures of the accient scene tell us the mother died if not instantly very shortly there after. which would mean she would have been dead that whole time.

If you care to read the story and examine all the evidence provided you would have seen a red 05 dodge caliber with the driverside roof crushed down to near the top of the door with a water line on the vechical at or just below the door handel which means a good 10" of her seat would have been crushed with the roof line. If she was wearing her seatbelt, then she would have been crushed as well. if not the crushed roof and deployed air bags would have held her in place where she drown.

again the car was upside down and partially submerged

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(March 11, 2015 at 5:37 am)abaris Wrote: At my place of work I stumbled over an old copy of one of our tabloids. Now this daily is as sensationalist as they come, but it featured that same story without any angels or voices. Just the bare bones of a fisher finding the wreckage, the mother being dead and the baby surviving for 14 hours in the cold water. Only the headline reads miracle, but that just them puling their usual stunt. With them everything is a miracle or a tragedy and god, angels or voices aren't mentioned.

Here are two NBC reports the second one has the full interview with the first responders.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/utah...er-n319831

(March 11, 2015 at 2:02 pm)Drich Wrote:

(March 11, 2015 at 6:44 am)Nope Wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/US/toddler-survive...d=29480431

Another story about same accident.

That is why i posted two different sources. Because it seems that some want certain parts of the story kept quite.

Why would anyone want the story kept secret? This isn't a story about the secret activities of some high level government official or business owner. It is a feel good story that validates many people's belief in an afterlife.

Stories like this remind me of the Ricky Gervais podcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K02oQzA1HK4

Leave it to Ricky Chair Face. Love it KP is definitely my favourite philosopher.

I still want to know how Drich knows this wasn't Satan trying to subvert god's judgement. Perhaps God was trying to place judgement on a wicked mother and child only to be foiled by one of Lucifer's minions using a disembodied voice.

(March 11, 2015 at 4:11 pm)Faith No More Wrote: I still want to know how Drich knows this wasn't Satan trying to subvert god's judgement. Perhaps God was trying to place judgement on a wicked mother and child only to be foiled by one of Lucifer's minions using a disembodied voice.

'Cause guardian angles make better feel good stories and fit his delusions more snugly.

Nope, you asked why anyone would fudge the reporting of a story like that?
You do realize our personal beliefs enter in to every compartment of our lives.
See the response the story got right here?
Now picture one of these guys who are vehemently atheist, as being a reporter or on the Associated Press team,
relaying all the news they deem fit for you.
Get the picture?
For an atheist to believe the testimony of the (to be) rescuers, they have a choice:
A)Make up some nonsense.
B) Admit some supernatural element is involved- and embark on a long slippery slope leading to the negation of Naturalism which is the entire foundation of Atheism.

(March 11, 2015 at 5:44 pm)professor Wrote: For an atheist to believe the testimony of the (to be) rescuers, they have a choice:

A)Make up some nonsense.

That stage has already happened.

(March 11, 2015 at 2:23 pm)Drich Wrote:

(March 10, 2015 at 5:53 pm)coldwx Wrote: I did read the article, but did you? You know the mom was dead for 14 hours? Where does it say that she died on impact? And since the whole point of my post was that we don't know what happened, but you automatically assume a supernatural cause. There was a litany of other plausible natural causes for the so called voice. You don't really think through your posts do you? Kindly fuck off.

Pictures of the accient scene tell us the mother died if not instantly very shortly there after. which would mean she would have been dead that whole time.

If you care to read the story and examine all the evidence provided you would have seen a red 05 dodge caliber with the driverside roof crushed down to near the top of the door with a water line on the vechical at or just below the door handel which means a good 10" of her seat would have been crushed with the roof line. If she was wearing her seatbelt, then she would have been crushed as well. if not the crushed roof and deployed air bags would have held her in place where she drown.

again the car was upside down and partially submerged