You've been given very clear answers, I was extremely helpful. I've given several analogies, and a link telling you all you need to know about both. But if you're just going to ignore what I say, then it's a waste of time.

Satanism has a load of prescribed beliefs, as detailed in the link. Atheism has no beliefs by default.

(April 15, 2015 at 3:47 am)Pizza Wrote: I guess Christianity and Islam are the same thing because they share a belief in a monotheistic God.

You know what's the same?  You and pizza.  Cheesy and unfullfillihg. 

Are you saying that to the Inquirer Kitan? I'm confused!

(April 15, 2015 at 3:36 am)robvalue Wrote: Everything in Satanism, except the atheist part, sets them apart.

Atheism is not a philosophy, so it has no tenants or ideas. It's a nothing.

There is no general statement you can say about atheists, other than they are atheists. Not so for Satanists, they are making clear their philosophy.

The only thing that sets them apart that I've heard thus far is "they're a group", when it can easily be argued that atheists are a group as well.

I aimed it at whom it was aimed.

Inquirer:

That's because you are covering your ears and ignoring everything we say that doesn't fit into your preconceptions. Atheists aren't even a group either.

Goodbye, thanks for wasting my time. When you go tell everyone how they're the same and we gave you no answers, will you link them this topic so they can judge for themselves? Or will you just tell them what you "heard" us say?

(April 15, 2015 at 3:56 am)CuriousInquirer Wrote:

(April 15, 2015 at 3:36 am)robvalue Wrote: Everything in Satanism, except the atheist part, sets them apart.

Atheism is not a philosophy, so it has no tenants or ideas. It's a nothing.

There is no general statement you can say about atheists, other than they are atheists. Not so for Satanists, they are making clear their philosophy.

The only thing that sets them apart that I've heard thus far is "they're a group", when it can easily be argued that atheists are a group as well.

Atheism isn't a philosophy or a belief system.  It's a lack of belief in deities.  That's it.  LaVeyan Satanism is a philosophy and a belief system that happens to contain atheists.  How is this so difficult to grasp?

(April 15, 2015 at 3:57 am)robvalue Wrote: Inquirer:

That's because you are covering your ears and ignoring everything we say that doesn't fit into your preconceptions. Atheists aren't even a group either.

Goodbye, thanks for wasting my time. When you go tell everyone how they're the same and we gave you no answers, will you link them this topic so they can judge for themselves? Or will you just tell them what you "heard" us say?

How is atheism not a group, though? This is a group we're posting in, after all...

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(April 15, 2015 at 4:00 am)rexbeccarox Wrote:

(April 15, 2015 at 3:56 am)CuriousInquirer Wrote: The only thing that sets them apart that I've heard thus far is "they're a group", when it can easily be argued that atheists are a group as well.

Atheism isn't a philosophy or a belief system.  It's a lack of belief in deities.  That's it.  LaVeyan Satanism is a philosophy and a belief system that happens to contain atheists.  How is this so difficult to grasp?

It's a belief in the nonexistence of gods/deities. Same as Satanism.

LaVeyan satanism comes with a set of additional values which sets it apart from just atheism. If want to know what those are, go to a LaVeyan satanist forum and ask.

(April 15, 2015 at 4:05 am)Alex K Wrote: LaVeyan satanism comes with a set of additional values which sets it apart from just atheism. If want to know what those are, go to a LaVeyan satanist forum and ask.

I read the FAQ on the satanist website and what I got out of it was essentially "lack of belief." Anything extra is purely a choice and not a part of the core Satanist philosophy.