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Abiogenesis is impossible
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#1601
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 30, 2015 at 12:31 am
Visit this comparative anatomy page and have fun, Snowy. It's pretty cool; you can pick the body part and species to compare. Take note of all the differences. http://efossils.org/page/compant
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 30, 2015 at 1:48 am
(April 29, 2015 at 11:49 pm)Darkstar Wrote:
(April 29, 2015 at 10:31 pm)Stimbo Wrote: There's no other explanation. It can only have been God.

There's no other explanation. It can only have been the Christian God.

Fixed that for you.   Wink

The capitalisation and lack of definite article were meant to indicate that; but you're quite right, it might have been too subtle for some.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 30, 2015 at 10:08 am (This post was last modified: April 30, 2015 at 10:22 am by Angrboda.)
You're too much, Snowy. You're given exactly what you ask for, gradual morphological changes as adaptations to bipedalism, and you claim it doesn't count because of a new ad hoc reason. You're just shifting goalposts to avoid admitting you were wrong. The shift in the position of the foramen magnum is itself evidence of a shift from quadrupedal to bipedal locomotion.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 30, 2015 at 11:05 am
(April 29, 2015 at 10:26 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Bipedalism appeared suddenly in the fossil record and was optimal soon as it appeared.
Google "evolution of bipedalism in hominids" and you'll see that this isn't true.  There are still questions about the evolution of bipedal hominids, but you seem content to shield yourself from even the stuff that has been learned in order to deny that it is known.  If your worldview is dependent on ignorance to that degree, then it's time to broaden it or outright reject it.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 30, 2015 at 11:40 am
(April 30, 2015 at 11:05 am)Tonus Wrote:
(April 29, 2015 at 10:26 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Bipedalism appeared suddenly in the fossil record and was optimal soon as it appeared.
Google "evolution of bipedalism in hominids" and you'll see that this isn't true.  There are still questions about the evolution of bipedal hominids, but you seem content to shield yourself from even the stuff that has been learned in order to deny that it is known.  If your worldview is dependent on ignorance to that degree, then it's time to broaden it or outright reject it.

Bipedalism isn't optimal now. We get back ache and painful births because originally we were four legged creatures.



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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 30, 2015 at 11:46 am
(April 30, 2015 at 11:40 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(April 30, 2015 at 11:05 am)Tonus Wrote: Google "evolution of bipedalism in hominids" and you'll see that this isn't true.  There are still questions about the evolution of bipedal hominids, but you seem content to shield yourself from even the stuff that has been learned in order to deny that it is known.  If your worldview is dependent on ignorance to that degree, then it's time to broaden it or outright reject it.

Bipedalism isn't optimal now. We get back ache and painful births because originally we were four legged creatures.

Actually... originally, we were marine creatures (see laryngeal nerve Tongue)
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 30, 2015 at 11:51 am
(April 30, 2015 at 11:46 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(April 30, 2015 at 11:40 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Bipedalism isn't optimal now. We get back ache and painful births because originally we were four legged creatures.

Actually... originally, we were marine creatures (see laryngeal nerve Tongue)

Well if you are going that far back.

Have you heard the hypothesis that we were evolving into partially aquatic apes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquatic_ape_hypothesis



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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 30, 2015 at 12:07 pm
(April 30, 2015 at 11:51 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(April 30, 2015 at 11:46 am)pocaracas Wrote: Actually... originally, we were marine creatures (see laryngeal nerve Tongue)

Well if you are going that far back.

Have you heard the hypothesis that we were evolving into partially aquatic apes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquatic_ape_hypothesis

I was going a bit further back... but that's interesting too! thanks!
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 30, 2015 at 12:58 pm
We were not! Shut your gills Big Grin
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 30, 2015 at 6:07 pm
(April 30, 2015 at 11:51 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Have you heard the hypothesis that we were evolving into partially aquatic apes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquatic_ape_hypothesis
Is that not part of the 'mermaid' documentary?
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