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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 28, 2015 at 2:42 pm
(May 28, 2015 at 2:31 pm)Prince Wrote: Are you saying that Time can be stopped? is that what you meant by "Time couldn't have come from nothing... it came from an eternal existent"
If you killed yourself today, your time will stop, correct? but if you mean Time & the Universe, we will be continuing to live, the universe will sustain another millions of years, there is no end for time, nor a beginning.
We could ask ourselves;
Where did the universe come from, and where is it going? Did the universe had a beginning, and if so, what happened before then?
Ask yourself first What is the nature of Time?
If time can be stopped, then the universe would come to an End and that would be an utter pointless, don't you think?
Time always existed and the universe will always be in existing... If the creator of Time wanted to 'End Time', then what is the purpose of Time, if God has the power to terminate Time anytime he wants, then why wait till the End of Time?
what.
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 28, 2015 at 3:23 pm
(May 28, 2015 at 2:42 pm)TRJF Wrote: (May 28, 2015 at 2:31 pm)Prince Wrote: Are you saying that Time can be stopped? is that what you meant by "Time couldn't have come from nothing... it came from an eternal existent"
If you killed yourself today, your time will stop, correct? but if you mean Time & the Universe, we will be continuing to live, the universe will sustain another millions of years, there is no end for time, nor a beginning.
We could ask ourselves;
Where did the universe come from, and where is it going? Did the universe had a beginning, and if so, what happened before then?
Ask yourself first What is the nature of Time?
If time can be stopped, then the universe would come to an End and that would be an utter pointless, don't you think?
Time always existed and the universe will always be in existing... If the creator of Time wanted to 'End Time', then what is the purpose of Time, if God has the power to terminate Time anytime he wants, then why wait till the End of Time?
what.
In other words, If there was an immense power that created Time, then why would Time must have an Ending. I am referring to the 'End of Time' argument.
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 28, 2015 at 3:36 pm
(May 28, 2015 at 12:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The whole of time consists of every point of time.
The whole of time exists in the now. The past is a figment of memory, the future the figment of imagination and shaping, but the only time that exists is the present.
Only the spiritually dumbfounded don't understand such a simple fact.
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 28, 2015 at 4:14 pm
The mystic will always mystify himself with mystification.
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 28, 2015 at 4:24 pm
(May 28, 2015 at 4:14 pm)Chuck Wrote: The mystic will always mystify himself with mystification.
Complexity is addictive; it feeds the ego. So is religion, for that matter.
It's very enticing to think that one owns the truth. That way lies monsters.
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 28, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Future is where the entropy is high. Peace.
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 28, 2015 at 6:12 pm
Guys, he may have a point. With the science peer review committee plagued with corruption and falsities, we cannot trust any results! Why risk it?
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 28, 2015 at 6:30 pm
(May 28, 2015 at 12:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Every point of time had to come into being and didn't always exist.
So, essentially this is another in a long line of theistic arguments that starts out with a bare assertion that you never bother to justify, and follows up with a series of other bare assertions that you also never justify, and are conditional to the first unevidenced assertion.
... And we should take you seriously... why? 
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RE: An argument showing time is temporal.
May 28, 2015 at 6:33 pm
(May 28, 2015 at 12:26 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:
In no way am I shocked that you cannot see how flawed your argument is.
You make the something couldn't have come from nothing argument and then fail to apply the same logic to your deity.
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An argument showing time is temporal.
May 28, 2015 at 7:32 pm
Mystic Knight,
Please explain to me what you think time actually is. I suspect you don't even know. Most people have it so wrong it ain't funny.
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