Then the question is not what sort of sexual ethics an atheist -should have-, Twisted, but why you subscribe to the ethics that you subscribe to, and whether or not you are comfortable with that.  Western culture makes most westerners feel awkward, btw...lol.  We spend a decade or so as walking, talking awkwardness...lol.  You probably will become acclimated, and what once bothered you might not even register.  

@Chad.
Either I tell them I have coke, or I tell them I'm swingin epic richard...I'm going to have to let them down either way...I figure the coke route is safer, since I plan to whip out the other thing....... 

(May 31, 2015 at 8:08 am)Twisted Wrote: why are Abrahamic religions so obsessed with sex?

It is largely about control.  

It is also likely that an interest in fidelity came about in prehistory when people started keeping animals, and noticed that sexual intercourse had something to do with offspring.  Once one understands the basics of reproduction, then one might be interested in knowing if one is the father of a child, and for that, a man needed to be the only man having sex with the woman (at the relevant possible times).

(May 31, 2015 at 8:08 am)Twisted Wrote: I was born a Muslim and i was brought up in such a way that i considered sex evil and women wearing vulgar clothes was considered extremely bad,every women who wore a jeans was considered a whore in my society though things have changed a lot now

sex before marriage has always been considered bad in the Indian sub continent among all religions

what kind of sexual ethics should we have as an Atheist?

As others have said, atheism is not believing in any gods.  It does not, in itself, dictate any moral code.  For that, you might want to look at various philosophers who have written about ethics, as most of their systems do not depend on a god in any way.

(May 31, 2015 at 8:33 am)Twisted Wrote:

(May 31, 2015 at 8:16 am)Rhythm Wrote: Atheism doesn't actually have anything to say on that matter - it can't help you decide that.  "Shoulds" are really beyond the purvey of atheism in and of itself - no matter what the subject.

I agree but I think my culture has its effects on my mind and thinking,the western culture feels awkward to me even though i have nothing against it maybe i am not used to living in such an environment

First of all, don't do anything you don't want to do.  Think about how you want to live your life.  And try to figure out, as best you can, why you want to live your life that way.  But even if you cannot figure out why you want whatever you want, do not do anything you don't want to do.

Also, keep the practical issues in mind.  For example, if you are going to be having sex with a bunch of people, or even just one person, you need to think about the possibility of pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.  And not just think about those things, but take appropriate actions regarding them.  You also will want to consider the reactions of your neighbors, which is why you probably don't want to be having sex in the street.

The practical matters are very important.  You are not only dealing with abstract ideas, you are dealing with your life.  Live it well.

The ethics started by men with small penis's that didn't want a wife that had already been with another man that had a large penis.

If the girl was a virgin then the small penis fellow could tell her that his penis is in fact very large and she should marvel at its 4 to 5 inches.

4 to 5 -solid- inches..perfectly appropriate for a man of his size, stature, and importance....thank you very much  

(May 31, 2015 at 8:08 am)Twisted Wrote: why are Abrahamic religions so obsessed with sex? I was born a Muslim and i was brought up in such a way that i considered sex evil and women wearing vulgar clothes was considered extremely bad,every women who wore a jeans was considered a whore in my society though things have changed a lot now

sex before marriage has always been considered bad in the Indian sub continent among all religions

what kind of sexual ethics should we have as an Atheist?

Technically speaking, you were born an atheist, it was the Islamic culture you were born into that raised you to be a Muslim.  Congratulations on coming out of that environment.

Atheism speaks nothing about what individual sexual ethics should be.  Secular Humanism, on the other hand, gives guidelines.  From the Affirmations of Humanism written by Paul Kurtz: "We respect the right to privacy. Mature adults should be allowed to fulfill their aspirations, to express their sexual preferences, to exercise reproductive freedom, to have access to comprehensive and informed health-care, and to die with dignity.'   The full statement of principles are here:https://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php/12

In other words, you should be allowed to express your sexual orientation and desires as you wish, so long as you don't hurt anyone.  Whether it is in a committed relationship(s) or not, that is your choice to make.

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(May 31, 2015 at 8:33 am)Twisted Wrote:

(May 31, 2015 at 8:16 am)Rhythm Wrote: Atheism doesn't actually have anything to say on that matter - it can't help you decide that.  "Shoulds" are really beyond the purvey of atheism in and of itself - no matter what the subject.

I agree but I think my culture has its effects on my mind and thinking,the western culture feels awkward to me even though i have nothing against it maybe i am not used to living in such an environment

You may be interested in reading Ibn Warraq's (a former Muslim) book "Why I Am Not A Muslim."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_I_Am_Not_a_Muslim

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(May 31, 2015 at 8:08 am)Twisted Wrote: what kind of sexual ethics should we have as an Atheist?

This is my opinion, not the voice of athism...

Fuck whoever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want (within the dictates of local law), as often as you want, always assuming your chosen partners are of legal age and able to give consent.

Sex should have the moral consequences of attending a concert or a movie, not the bullshit dreamed up by iron age goat herders.

(May 31, 2015 at 1:26 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(May 31, 2015 at 8:08 am)Twisted Wrote: what kind of sexual ethics should we have as an Atheist?

This is my opinion, not the voice of athism...

Fuck whoever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want (within the dictates of local law), as often as you want, always assuming your chosen partners are of legal age and able to give consent.

Sex should have the moral consequences of attending a concert or a movie, not the bullshit dreamed up by iron age goat herders.

The thing is, sex can have very real consequences that one normally does not have from merely attending a concert or a movie. Watching a movie can not, in itself, result in a pregnancy or the transmission of a venereal disease. Those very real possibilities make sex something that should be done with greater care than watching a movie requires.

That obviously does not mean that one should pay any attention to religious nonsense about sex. But it does mean that it isn't the same sort of thing as going to a concert or movie.

(May 31, 2015 at 3:17 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:

(May 31, 2015 at 1:26 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: This is my opinion, not the voice of athism...

Fuck whoever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want (within the dictates of local law), as often as you want, always assuming your chosen partners are of legal age and able to give consent.

Sex should have the moral consequences of attending a concert or a movie, not the bullshit dreamed up by iron age goat herders.

The thing is, sex can have very real consequences that one normally does not have from merely attending a concert or a movie.  Watching a movie can not, in itself, result in a pregnancy or the transmission of a venereal disease.  Those very real possibilities make sex something that should be done with greater care than watching a movie requires.

That obviously does not mean that one should pay any attention to religious nonsense about sex.  But it does mean that it isn't the same sort of thing as going to a concert or movie.

Nice straw man...

I'm not arguing that sex is "the same sort of thing as going to a concert or movie," nor am I attempting to argue that it is without consequence, but that it should have the same moral consequences. In plain words, idiotic fucktards should not be looking down on others based on their misbegotten beliefs about sex.

(May 31, 2015 at 3:46 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(May 31, 2015 at 3:17 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: The thing is, sex can have very real consequences that one normally does not have from merely attending a concert or a movie.  Watching a movie can not, in itself, result in a pregnancy or the transmission of a venereal disease.  Those very real possibilities make sex something that should be done with greater care than watching a movie requires.

That obviously does not mean that one should pay any attention to religious nonsense about sex.  But it does mean that it isn't the same sort of thing as going to a concert or movie.

Nice straw man...

I'm not arguing that sex is "the same sort of thing as going to a concert or movie," nor am I attempting to argue that it is without consequence, but that it should have the same moral consequences. In plain words, idiotic fucktards should not be looking down on others based on their misbegotten beliefs about sex.

It does not have the same potential and often actual consequences, so why would the moral consequences be the same?  Do you think there are no moral consequences if you get a woman pregnant and she has a child?  Should that have different moral consequences for you than going to a movie?

If you go to a movie with a woman, you are not morally obligated to pay child support because of it.  Are you saying that if you father a child, you are also not morally obligated to pay child support because of it?

I think sexual morality has to do with religion, culture and society. I believe that the main purpose of sexual ethics was to (and still is) control the reproduction and decide how much and when we will pass down our genes to the next generation - Obviously you only need two heterosexual (of opposite gender) people to procreate and have children, so the natural result was to accept merely heterosexual monogamous couples. Also, since a lot of cultures and religions emphasized controlling our primary urges (because we are rational and capable of it) repressing your sexual needs was obvious at the least because otherwise you would rape people everytime you needed sex.

My view on sexuality is mixed - I'm not concerned with what people do in the bedroom, but I have no intention of seeing it in public regardless of how libertarian people are. I think sex is immoral if it consists in unjustified cheating, transmission of diseases, etc. Personally I prefer monogamy and fidelity because it suits my lifestyle best.

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(May 31, 2015 at 3:46 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(May 31, 2015 at 3:17 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: The thing is, sex can have very real consequences that one normally does not have from merely attending a concert or a movie.  Watching a movie can not, in itself, result in a pregnancy or the transmission of a venereal disease.  Those very real possibilities make sex something that should be done with greater care than watching a movie requires.

That obviously does not mean that one should pay any attention to religious nonsense about sex.  But it does mean that it isn't the same sort of thing as going to a concert or movie.

Nice straw man...

I'm not arguing that sex is "the same sort of thing as going to a concert or movie," nor am I attempting to argue that it is without consequence, but that it should have the same moral consequences. In plain words, idiotic fucktards should not be looking down on others based on their misbegotten beliefs about sex.

This is only true if I accept your personal, subjective idea of morality and ethics - And why should I do it? Some behaviours, sexual or not, are so self-destructive that I want to put an active stance against them. Just think of sex addiction - It's a more serious problem than many people think, and even though I'm not addicted I want to stop people from being addicted (and perhaps promote a less extreme cultural sexual desire).

I can look down on people for any reason I want whenever I want and against whoever I want - I can look down (and do) on people for their clothes, their haircut, their dialect, accent, skills, handshake, etc - We all do that and thinking sexual life is magically different is naive and promotes an impossible utopia.