(July 7, 2015 at 1:26 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(July 7, 2015 at 1:17 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: First ,he inspired it. He didn't write it. Man did. I wouldn't cherry pick. But obviously some sins or wrongs are less grave than others.

Even if he did the Devil of all beings a person who is supposed to be pure evil to the core really isn't.
You can say the Devil is evil because the bible says so. I'll bring up Job of all people in the bible felt gods
wrath and he had his family wealth possessions all taken away over a petty bet. Then you have Adam and Eve
unjustly punished and lied to. I can keep going on and god in the bible has lied to people and has gotten them killed. 
When it comes down to it how would you or anyone feel to have their loved one killed by a being that simply did not like them...

You are so far off I can barely even comprehend. The Lord could have punished more obviously and extremely in the past because these people where supposed to be setting an example for all humanity after them. The Lord is not bad or the Devil. That is a little silly. Evil came from knowledge that we attained through selfish outside forces other than God.

Your quest for facts did not survive Post #8.

(July 7, 2015 at 1:31 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote:

(July 7, 2015 at 1:26 pm)dyresand Wrote: Even if he did the Devil of all beings a person who is supposed to be pure evil to the core really isn't.
You can say the Devil is evil because the bible says so. I'll bring up Job of all people in the bible felt gods
wrath and he had his family wealth possessions all taken away over a petty bet. Then you have Adam and Eve
unjustly punished and lied to. I can keep going on and god in the bible has lied to people and has gotten them killed. 
When it comes down to it how would you or anyone feel to have their loved one killed by a being that simply did not like them...

You are so far off I can barely even comprehend. The Lord could have punished more obviously and extremely in the past because these people where supposed to be setting an example for all humanity after them. The Lord is not bad or the Devil. That is a little silly. Evil came from knowledge that we attained through selfish outside forces other than God.

#Shit Storm IV: The shittening. 

"Then the king of Israel gathered the prophets together, about four hundred men, and said to them, “Shall I go against Ramoth-gilead to battle or shall I refrain?” And they said, “Go up, for the Lord will give it into the hand of the king.” (1 Kings 22: 6) 

"Micaiah said, “Therefore, hear the word of the LORD. I saw the LORD sitting on His throne, and all the host of heaven standing by Him on His right and on His left.  “The LORD said, ‘Who will entice Ahab to go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?’ And one said this while another said that. “Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’  “The LORD said to him, ‘How?’ And he said, ‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ Then He said, ‘You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.’  “Now therefore, behold, the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the LORD has proclaimed disaster against you.” (1 Kings 22: 19 – 23) 

"Then I said, “Ah, Lord GOD! Surely You have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘You will have peace’; whereas a sword touches the throat.” (Jeremiah 4: 10)

"O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived; You have overcome me and prevailed. I have become a laughingstock all day long; everyone mocks me." (Jeremiah 20:7)


"And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel." (Ezekiel 14: 9) <- again i just said he would get anyone killed he didn't like. (so much for a "all loving" being)

God lies about his holiness to cover up more of his lies: 



“There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 



Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood, 



A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that run rapidly to evil, 


A false witness who utters lies, And one who spreads strife among brothers." (Proverbs 6: 16 -19) 

sus lies to his apostles and lies as a sales pitch to get converts. 


“Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it."  (John 14: 11 – 14) 

(July 7, 2015 at 1:48 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(July 7, 2015 at 1:31 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: You are so far off I can barely even comprehend. The Lord could have punished more obviously and extremely in the past because these people where supposed to be setting an example for all humanity after them. The Lord is not bad or the Devil. That is a little silly. Evil came from knowledge that we attained through selfish outside forces other than God.

#Shit Storm IV: The shittening. 

"Then the king of Israel gathered the prophets together, about four hundred men, and said to them, “Shall I go against Ramoth-gilead to battle or shall I refrain?” And they said, “Go up, for the Lord will give it into the hand of the king.” (1 Kings 22: 6) 

"Micaiah said, “Therefore, hear the word of the LORD. I saw the LORD sitting on His throne, and all the host of heaven standing by Him on His right and on His left.  “The LORD said, ‘Who will entice Ahab to go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?’ And one said this while another said that. “Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’  “The LORD said to him, ‘How?’ And he said, ‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ Then He said, ‘You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.’  “Now therefore, behold, the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the LORD has proclaimed disaster against you.” (1 Kings 22: 19 – 23) 

"Then I said, “Ah, Lord GOD! Surely You have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘You will have peace’; whereas a sword touches the throat.” (Jeremiah 4: 10)

"O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived; You have overcome me and prevailed. I have become a laughingstock all day long; everyone mocks me." (Jeremiah 20:7)


"And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel." (Ezekiel 14: 9) <- again i just said he would get anyone killed he didn't like. (so much for a "all loving" being)

God lies about his holiness to cover up more of his lies: 



“There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 



Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood, 



A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that run rapidly to evil, 


A false witness who utters lies, And one who spreads strife among brothers." (Proverbs 6: 16 -19) 

sus lies to his apostles and lies as a sales pitch to get converts. 


“Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it."  (John 14: 11 – 14) 

Why don't you post the entire story? Why must you deceive if you know your right.

The story is about one prophet that will only be true to God instead of telling the king what he wants to hear like the other 400 false prophets.

That was pretty low. Should be expected though, I guess.

(July 7, 2015 at 5:55 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote:

(July 7, 2015 at 1:48 pm)dyresand Wrote: #Shit Storm IV: The shittening. 

"Then the king of Israel gathered the prophets together, about four hundred men, and said to them, “Shall I go against Ramoth-gilead to battle or shall I refrain?” And they said, “Go up, for the Lord will give it into the hand of the king.” (1 Kings 22: 6) 

"Micaiah said, “Therefore, hear the word of the LORD. I saw the LORD sitting on His throne, and all the host of heaven standing by Him on His right and on His left.  “The LORD said, ‘Who will entice Ahab to go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?’ And one said this while another said that. “Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD and said, ‘I will entice him.’  “The LORD said to him, ‘How?’ And he said, ‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.’ Then He said, ‘You are to entice him and also prevail. Go and do so.’  “Now therefore, behold, the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the LORD has proclaimed disaster against you.” (1 Kings 22: 19 – 23) 

"Then I said, “Ah, Lord GOD! Surely You have utterly deceived this people and Jerusalem, saying, ‘You will have peace’; whereas a sword touches the throat.” (Jeremiah 4: 10)

"O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived; You have overcome me and prevailed. I have become a laughingstock all day long; everyone mocks me." (Jeremiah 20:7)


"And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel." (Ezekiel 14: 9) <- again i just said he would get anyone killed he didn't like. (so much for a "all loving" being)

God lies about his holiness to cover up more of his lies: 



“There are six things which the LORD hates, Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: 



Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, And hands that shed innocent blood, 



A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that run rapidly to evil, 


A false witness who utters lies, And one who spreads strife among brothers." (Proverbs 6: 16 -19) 

sus lies to his apostles and lies as a sales pitch to get converts. 


“Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it."  (John 14: 11 – 14) 

Why don't you post the entire story? Why must you deceive if you know your right.

The story is about one prophet that will only be true to God instead of telling the king what he wants to hear like the other 400 false prophets.

That was pretty low. Should be expected though, I guess.

Still doesn't help your position as the believer here is why. 

Him lying to cover up his own lies 
“He who practices deceit shall not dwell within my house; He who speaks falsehood shall not maintain his position before me.” (Psalm 101: 7) 

jesus lies about his second coming
“Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16: 28) 

again though god and jesus of the bible are liars 

I'm sorry, but that makes no sense at all. I have some stuff to take care of but will research later.

(July 7, 2015 at 7:01 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: I'm sorry, but that makes no sense at all. I have some stuff to take care of but will research later.

Read the bible word for word god is clearly a monster. 

Simply your interpretation which you are entitled to.

(July 7, 2015 at 8:26 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Simply your interpretation which you are entitled to.

It's not personal interpretations i'm going on literal written word. The bible has no meaning to me 
and i have no need to do my own personal interpretations of it.

(July 7, 2015 at 8:26 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Simply your interpretation which you are entitled to.

Do you mean to suggest that you view God ordering murder and rape as being something good?  God commanded rape and murder and had the Israelites go through with it, according to the Bible.


Murder and rape

Numbers 31

Deuteronomy 20:10-14


Rape

Deuteronomy 21:10-14


Murder

Numbers 21

1 Samuel 15

That is more than enough, but there is more.  Really, the Israelites, as described in the Bible, are very much like ISIS today.