(July 11, 2015 at 10:37 am)robvalue Wrote: 687 people can't be wrong. There is no God.

Glad we've settled that!

I am glad that you have settled that with so many people.
You just remind me a guy in a believer forum who said the same thing
about the fact that there is God.
Sometime i really don't know who to believe. 

(July 11, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Laika Wrote: I do not believe in God, but simultaneously I do not and will not profess to "know" there is no God. I just think that presently there is not enough evidence to back up his existence.

I am afraid that you will never get any evidence until you will build up some interest about God or
whatever you may consider.
Would you manifest into someone who is not interested in you? 

(July 11, 2015 at 7:30 am)whateverist Wrote:

(July 11, 2015 at 5:22 am)Stimbo Wrote:

Drunk typing again, are we Simbo?  Let me have a go at answering this one while you sleep it off.

Unlike Tonus, you Ricky do have a clue.  But you've mistaken it for a fact and enshrined it at the center of your world.

Uh, i would have thought that it is a fact that only 2% of people are doing ok and the rest float in the sewer
but if your numbers differ please let me know so i can correct my terrible mistake. 

(July 12, 2015 at 9:39 am)Little Rik Wrote: Would you manifest into someone who is not interested in you? 

Obviously god needs worship so badly that to not worship it condemns one to eternal torment. With this need in hand, it would behoove god to make itself known to all the disbelievers. If there were few enough believers, god would cease to exist, so it would be foolhardy or even suicidal to ignore the disbelievers.

(July 12, 2015 at 9:28 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(July 11, 2015 at 10:37 am)robvalue Wrote: 687 people can't be wrong. There is no God.

Glad we've settled that!

I am glad that you have settled that with so many people.
You just remind me a guy in a believer forum who said the same thing
about the fact that there is God.
Sometime i really don't know who to believe. 

*awkward silence*

(Should we tell him?)

(July 12, 2015 at 9:39 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(July 11, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Laika Wrote: I do not believe in God, but simultaneously I do not and will not profess to "know" there is no God. I just think that presently there is not enough evidence to back up his existence.

I am afraid that you will never get any evidence until you will build up some interest about God or
whatever you may consider.
Would you manifest into someone who is not interested in you? 

I've looked at the facts, buddy. Scientifically speaking, there is no credible evidence for God. 
And I refuse to spend my life believing in or worshiping a being with no evidence. 
Following your line of logic then, how do you know unicorns do not exist? Have you spent time "building up interest" in them? If not, then why would they manifest themselves to you?

My wife spent my beer money on a new dog lead. And I don't even like beer.

(July 12, 2015 at 12:24 pm)IATIA Wrote:

(July 12, 2015 at 9:39 am)Little Rik Wrote: Would you manifest into someone who is not interested in you? 

Obviously god needs worship so badly that to not worship it condemns one to eternal torment. With this need in hand, it would behoove god to make itself known to all the disbelievers.  If there were few enough believers, god would cease to exist, so it would be foolhardy or even suicidal to ignore the disbelievers.

Oh, boys!
You already decided that there is hell and God would get cranky if someone doesn't believe in Him (Her).
Do you Iat?
Do you have any evidence for it?
I suggest you to get some knowledge about who invented hell and about a cranky God towards non-believers.
After you clear your mind from all this garbage we can have a beneficial exchange of ideas. 

(July 12, 2015 at 12:42 pm)Laika Wrote:

(July 12, 2015 at 9:39 am)Little Rik Wrote: I am afraid that you will never get any evidence until you will build up some interest about God or
whatever you may consider.
Would you manifest into someone who is not interested in you? 

I've looked at the facts, buddy. Scientifically speaking, there is no credible evidence for God. 
And I refuse to spend my life believing in or worshiping a being with no evidence. 
Following your line of logic then, how do you know unicorns do not exist? Have you spent time "building up interest" in them? If not, then why would they manifest themselves to you?

If you look for physical evidence that the mind exist you will never find any.
How can something abstract can be detected by our physical senses?
Once we establish that a possible God can not be detected by our physical senses then we "travel" in the
world of consciousness.
All is about how much consciousness a person have and how much consciousness a person 
aim to.
If you are not interested in expand your consciousness why then worry about God existence?
Now you may ask............what the consciousness has to do with God?
Simple.
In this material-physical world everything is limited.
No matter how hard you try.
Peace of mind is an impossibility within the limited so it is obvious that by expanding our consciousness we can get
over the limit of this limited universe.
Where to?
Somewhere where there are no limits so the smart person understand that this place has got to be bigger than this limited world.
Step by step people will get there but as i said above you shouldn't really worry whether God exist or not.
If you are happy as you are go for but to deny what come further along the way to expansion wan't help you much.

(July 12, 2015 at 7:30 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) What i have to do with religion only Santa knows.

The phrase "six of one, half-dozen of the other" applies here. What you describe is not different from religion.

Little Rik Wrote:2) If i make statistic is in relation to your distorted view that technologies take the human race outside the sewer
and into a better future.

Made-up statistics to support made-up claims does not make either of them true. The world as it is today would not be possible without technology. We would be small nomadic groups scraping for survival every day and with lifespans in the 20s or 30s. That might still be the case in some corners of the world, but most people live a much better life. Your unwillingness to accept reality does not alter reality.

Little Rik Wrote:Ton, superstitions have some weight into keeping human race in the sewer.

Yes, superstition is one of the mental crutches that people need to shake off in order to live better. Again, it is one of those quirks that religion and similar thinking help to keep alive, through the idea that there's something more out there than what we can detect. Time and again, what we find is that if we eliminate that sort of backwards thinking, progress arrives more quickly.