Let's say its the it's close to being the end times, would you either A get on the first space ship off the planet or B stay.

Sure as fuck i am choosing A they can have the planet.

Well, if the end times involve spending eternity with the God of the bible as the best case scenario, then I'll get on the space ship.

(July 12, 2015 at 3:42 am)dyresand Wrote: Let's say its the it's close to being the end times, would you either A get on the first space ship off the planet or B stay.

Sure as fuck i am choosing A they can have the planet.

So where will you go and what would you do if you got there?  We are life forms specifically adapted to this planet.  We wouldn't survive on another one.

BTW, what's your version of the end times?

That is a funny concept...

It's like that "Mental As Anything" song "If you leave me, can I come too?"
I dare say, the reason for the end times is to end the sinful inhabitants, not the endangered yellow bellied parrot!
Either God knows where you're going, (he DID create all the other planets? yes, no?), and he's gonna fuck you from afar, or he really IS that stupid!

(July 12, 2015 at 4:28 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: We are life forms specifically adapted to this planet.  We wouldn't survive on another one.

Actually, we're life forms specifically adapted to the African Savannah, but we manage to survive in all kinds of extreme climates reasonably well. All we'd need to find is a planet somewhat similar to Earth's with a similar atmosphere and make-up. I don't think that's too far fetched considering we've already found thousands of planets that exist in the habitable zone of other stars, somewhere out there are planets that are going to be pretty damn similar to our own I bet.

(July 12, 2015 at 3:42 am)dyresand Wrote: its the it's close to being the end times

Who taught you English? That sentence is absolutely senseless.
As for the rest I'll take the space ship. I wouldn't miss the chance to travel through space.

I'd stay.  The odds of living through the destruction of a planet and staying alive on a spaceship long enough to reach a second planet are roughly equal:  nil.

Boru

I've looked into some of the concepts worked up by Dyson on the big Orion interstellar craft. Of several difficulties, paying for it seems to be the deal killer, not technical impossibility.

If EM drive turns out to be feasible (I am skeptical so far) we might want to dust off some of the late 50s/60s Orion design studies.

Anyone want to vacation on Enceladus ??

(July 12, 2015 at 1:49 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I've looked into some of the concepts worked up by Dyson on the big Orion interstellar craft.  Of several difficulties, paying for it seems to be the deal killer, not technical impossibility.

If EM drive turns out to be feasible (I am skeptical so far) we might want to dust off some of the late 50s/60s Orion design studies.  

Anyone want to vacation on Enceladus ??

The EM drive is possible but with NASA's cut backs its not going to get built anytime soon. The better option of getting it built is well... either a third party or 
well invest your own time into designing and developing it. Though nice people in black cars will surly show up when you finished making it and take it away.

Some problems I see with moving our entire species (or even a sizable portion of it) off planet:

1.  Where to go:  The only fit piece of real estate for human beings in this vicinity happens to be the one we're standing on (forget terraforming, it isn't going to happen) and extra-solar planets are impossibly far away.

2.  How to get there:  Leaving aside for now the problem of getting all the way to an Earth-like planet, it would take about 40 billion gigajoules of energy just to get us out of Earth's gravity well (that's just for the people).  This is, very roughly, the equivalent of the world's remaining oil reserves (and no, I'm not proposing oil-fired rocket ships).  Source:  The kid across the street who's taking his physics degree.

3.  How to pay for it:  Even if only half the people on Earth wanted to leave, that's going to be around 5 billion (the population has a nasty habit of growing).  Let's be generous and assume you could cram 10 000 people into a single ship.  You're going to need a half million space ships.  Figuring the one of the US space shuttles (Endeavour) cost $1.7 billion US dollars to build, we can extrapolate - not adjusting for inflation - that one of our planet evacuating ships could easily cost around two and a half trillion.  And you'd need to build and fuel a half million of them.

Nope.  Everyone's staying, like it or not.

Boru