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Atheists: would proof of the resurrection matter to you?
July 16, 2015 at 6:11 am
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2015 at 6:21 am by robvalue.)
Let's assume that somehow it was proved beyond reasonable doubt that there was a real, single historical person who Jesus was loosely based on, and that he really did come back to life after being dead for 3 days. What difference would this make to you, other than learning such a thing is possible?
To me it would make no difference.
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RE: Atheists: would proof of the resurrection matter to you?
July 16, 2015 at 6:21 am
None whatsoever, in terms of belief itself.
I'll throw in miracles, the gospels as eye witness accounts and a 100% historical reliability of the NT and take away all the contradictions, too. Does nothing for sky daddy, does nothing for religion, does nothing for me.
That is, if you could actually prove the resurrection of a long deceased dubiously historical figure. But for that, you'd need evidence.
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RE: Atheists: would proof of the ressurection matter to you?
July 16, 2015 at 6:22 am
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Nothing. It wouldn't prove a god, it wouldn't even show the Jesus of the proven resurrection is in anyway out of ordinary.
It is not unheard of people to fall into a state that in the pre-modern era would be indistinguishable from being dead, with no trivially detectable pulse or breathing, and then revive after a couple of days. By modern standards they were never dead and were always detectably alive. By back water of Roman Empire standards they may well have been considered dead for the lack of sophistication to tell the difference. Such ocurances might thoroughly awe some illiterate Iron Age yokel, but nothing modern medicine would raise eyebrow over.
In fact, some gurus in India have mastered the ability to go into this pseudo death state on demand. Pseudo death also occurs with sufficient regularity upon ingestion of certain types of naturally occurring neural toxin that in parts of the world where such toxins are often found, like in certain sea food, there are taboos against burying the dead for 3 days if the appearently dead is known to have eaten sources of such toxin, on the off chance the seeming dead would revive as they some times do.
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RE: Atheists: would proof of the resurrection matter to you?
July 16, 2015 at 6:56 am
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RE: Atheists: would proof of the resurrection matter to you?
July 16, 2015 at 7:20 am
Let me get this straight?
Proven that a guy, beaten to a pulp, whipped till his back is raw flesh, with nails hammered through his hands and feet, left hanging for a few hours until suffocation would kill him, then speared through the heart and lungs to make sure he's really as dead as they come.... and 3 days later this same guy is seen walking around as if nothing had happened, except for the holes in his hands?
This kind of resurrection?
Or the kind that Ashground just showed of the grandmother who took a very deep and long nap and then woke up?
Not proof of any god, but I'd be interested in examining such a body... for science, of course!
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RE: Atheists: would proof of the resurrection matter to you?
July 16, 2015 at 7:24 am
Reasonable proof that a human had been dead for three days (not in a coma or condition that looks like death but isn't - these would come under reasonable doubt) then came back to life - proof beyond reasonable doubt that the laws of physics have been broken - that would be MEGA - never mind any Jesus nonsense.
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RE: Atheists: would proof of the resurrection matter to you?
July 16, 2015 at 7:27 am
I'd immediately walk down to the local preacher and buy him that Ferrari he deserves.
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RE: Atheists: would proof of the resurrection matter to you?
July 16, 2015 at 7:36 am
If undeniable proof is found of an actual dead person being resurrected after three days, then I'd start believing in Frankenstein and look into possibilities of creating zombies.
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RE: Atheists: would proof of the resurrection matter to you?
July 16, 2015 at 7:43 am
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2015 at 8:03 am by Homeless Nutter.)
(July 16, 2015 at 6:11 am)robvalue Wrote: Let's assume that somehow it was proved beyond reasonable doubt that there was a real, single historical person who Jesus was loosely based on, and that he really did come back to life after being dead for 3 days. What difference would this make to you, other than learning such a thing is possible?
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Learning that it's possible to determine with any level of certainty, whether or not a human was dead for 3 days, 2000 years ago - well, that would be amazing. Yay, science!
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RE: Atheists: would proof of the resurrection matter to you?
July 16, 2015 at 7:48 am
It wouldn't make a difference to me because after all has been said and done, at the end of the day, gawd (if there was one) would still be an asshole and I'd still be walking around doing what I do.
Carry on.
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