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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
August 21, 2015 at 12:44 pm
(August 21, 2015 at 11:37 am)abaris Wrote: (August 21, 2015 at 11:36 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: but let thy will be done.
And so it is.
Otherwise known as covering all bases. In case it doesn't work as intended. That cover is about two inches thinner than wet tissue paper.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
August 21, 2015 at 12:45 pm
I was 19 when I deployed to the middle east. Everybody prayed. I don't know who god supposedly answers, but it isn't women and children.
Fuck god.
I reject your reality and substitute my own!
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
August 21, 2015 at 12:53 pm
...sorry people. In a bit of a shitty mood today.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
August 21, 2015 at 12:53 pm
Good grief, I have too many to list. This is one of the things that let me to atheism, of course. There was this growing knowledge that no matter how much or how fervently I prayed, NOBODY WAS LISTENING.
Here's a recent one though. A friends young son, 27, brilliant, in his residency to be a pediatric oncologist, was diagnosed with colon cancer. Everyone said that if God would help anybody, it would be this promising, upstanding, Xtian husband and father of 2. They took him to the best clinics. He got everything medical science could give. AND he had no less than 5 large churches holding special prayer services weekly for him. He died 2 months ago.
The zinger that makes it worse for me is that I, too, was diagnosed with colon cancer - in the same month. I'm a cantankerous, childless, fat old lady. I only had an easy surgery and minimal chemo and I'm cancer-free. Now, yeah, I'm an atheist, but I had a few moments over the last year when I did pray "IF you're there, you'll take ME!. ME, not this promising young doctor with kids. ME."
I think that any deity capable of noticing would have agreed.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
August 21, 2015 at 12:53 pm
(August 21, 2015 at 12:23 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I didn't pray to not be good looking for my sake. But for everyone else's. Every time I enter the room women fall over each other to come and chat me up. I just wanted it to stop. That's the epitome of selflessness if you ask me.
The quintessence of magnanimity
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
August 21, 2015 at 1:15 pm
(August 21, 2015 at 12:53 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Good grief, I have too many to list. This is one of the things that let me to atheism, of course. There was this growing knowledge that no matter how much or how fervently I prayed, NOBODY WAS LISTENING.
Here's a recent one though. A friends young son, 27, brilliant, in his residency to be a pediatric oncologist, was diagnosed with colon cancer. Everyone said that if God would help anybody, it would be this promising, upstanding, Xtian husband and father of 2. They took him to the best clinics. He got everything medical science could give. AND he had no less than 5 large churches holding special prayer services weekly for him. He died 2 months ago.
The zinger that makes it worse for me is that I, too, was diagnosed with colon cancer - in the same month. I'm a cantankerous, childless, fat old lady. I only had an easy surgery and minimal chemo and I'm cancer-free. Now, yeah, I'm an atheist, but I had a few moments over the last year when I did pray "IF you're there, you'll take ME!. ME, not this promising young doctor with kids. ME."
I think that any deity capable of noticing would have agreed. That's why I'm glad I started this thread because people are hurting and we're being told it's our fault if god doesn't answer our prayers.
We just wouldn't have these experiences if a loving god ran the world.
"Oh that happened to you because your distant ancestor ate a piece of fruit he wasn't supposed to and now I'm holding you responsible because he is dead."
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
August 21, 2015 at 2:52 pm
(August 21, 2015 at 10:34 am)Neimenovic Wrote: (August 21, 2015 at 10:31 am)Godschild Wrote: The sad thing here is you all prayed selfishly, I want, I want, I want. You should of learned to pray.
GC
Really? Even the prayers for world peace and the like are selfish?
So how are you supposed to pray?
You got it all wrong ...
Real Christians do not pray for peace for this world.
This world sucks for them. They want it to end as soon as possible so they can be closer to their god, that is not selfish at all, lol
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
August 21, 2015 at 5:46 pm
(August 20, 2015 at 8:19 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: My cousin suffered multiple miscarriages because of fibroids. The last time she got pregnant, we were doing a three-way with my sister and decided to pray for her. My sister led the prayer. I never knew my sister could pray like that. It was a fervent, effectual prayer, the kind the Bible says availeth much. I thought for sure if god answered any prayer, it would be that one. My cousin lost that baby in the most emotionally painful miscarriage she’d ever had. Nothing was said about the prayer. They just swept it under the rug and I wondered if I was the only one who noticed how lumpy that rug was becoming.
One day, my cousin was sitting in church during baby dedications. The pastor, bless his heart, was trying to encourage the parents to be good parents, telling them god had entrusted them with the little souls. He was just trying to encourage them, but my cousin took it as an indictment. She ran out of the church in tears convinced that the reason she could not have a baby was because god did not trust her.
She never asked why, if god were in the business of keeping untrustworthy women from having babies, why was her husband’s daughter allowed to be born. Her husband’s daughter was beat up by her other’s lesbian lover. Why god want to pick on my little cousin? “Oh she’s a particularly bad woman. We better not let her have any kids.”
God will answer your prayers about little stupid things that you could do for yourself, but the one’s he doesn’t answer are the ones where people are really hurting, really in need and have nothing else that they can do.
I’m tired of Christians giving their testimonies that do nothing but show how screwed up their priorities are. I want to hear the untestimonies of those who asked god for something that any loving god would have granted. That was a little too much info.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
August 21, 2015 at 5:51 pm
(August 21, 2015 at 2:52 pm)FifthElement Wrote: (August 21, 2015 at 10:34 am)Neimenovic Wrote: Really? Even the prayers for world peace and the like are selfish?
So how are you supposed to pray?
You got it all wrong ...
Real Christians do not pray for peace for this world.
This world sucks for them. They want it to end as soon as possible so they can be closer to their god, that is not selfish at all, lol
That's truer than you think. Christians associate world peace with the anti-christ.
They take food to old people and snut-ins on Thanksgiving and Xmas, as if people only have to eat twice a year.
I'd better stop before somebody might think I'm saying Christians are the scourge of the Earth.
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RE: Share Your Untestimony: Prayers that God didn't Answer
August 21, 2015 at 5:57 pm
Daniel prayed three times a day. Muslims pray five times a day. Are they getting what they pray for? If people did more work instead of praying all of the time wouldn't they be better off? Why pray for someone to recover from a terminal illness when you could have been a doctor or a nurse and provided actual medical therapies instead of superstitious religious mumbo-jumbo? Was it better to pray for a cure to polio or was it better to work and develop an effective vaccine to prevent it?
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