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RE: Sacrifice
August 27, 2015 at 3:21 pm
The thing is, though, is it really a sacrifice?
A couple of days of excruciating pain - yes, definitely not pleasant - then you die for three days, get to visit a sauna you're immune to, then come back to life and spend eternity as emperor of the universe?
I'll do it!
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RE: Sacrifice
August 27, 2015 at 9:40 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 3:09 pm)TubbyTubby Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 2:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: Man caused the bloodshed, when God kill the the animals to cloth Adam and Eve the skins covered their nakedness and the shed blood covered their sin. It's not that God couldn't have done it another way, this is what He chose, the shedding of blood shows us the awfulness of sin, even yourself says it'e repugnant.
GC
But GC, there were no Adam nor Eve. It's a story, badly written, means nothing, no morals, nothing. Let it go ffs.
Wrong!
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RE: Sacrifice
August 27, 2015 at 9:43 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 2:45 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 2:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: Man caused the bloodshed, when God kill the the animals to cloth Adam and Eve the skins covered their nakedness and the shed blood covered their sin. It's not that God couldn't have done it another way, this is what He chose, the shedding of blood shows us the awfulness of sin, even yourself says it'e repugnant.
GC
If the shedding of blood is sinful, and Yahweh shed blood when he didn't have to, and demanded it on a regular basis, that means he was sinful. To say that it's ok when he does it is hypocritical.
No one said shedding blood was sinful.
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RE: Sacrifice
August 27, 2015 at 9:44 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 9:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 3:09 pm)TubbyTubby Wrote: But GC, there were no Adam nor Eve. It's a story, badly written, means nothing, no morals, nothing. Let it go ffs.
Wrong!
GC
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RE: Sacrifice
August 27, 2015 at 9:47 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 2:21 pm)Napoléon Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 2:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: Man caused the bloodshed, when God kill the the animals to cloth Adam and Eve the skins covered their nakedness and the shed blood covered their sin. It's not that God couldn't have done it another way, this is what He chose, the shedding of blood shows us the awfulness of sin, even yourself says it'e repugnant.
GC
Oh, the "man's fault" argument. We have free will but god already knows what we're going to do...
Begs the question of why he made that bastard snake talk in the first place.
Still, your answer says nothing about it being less than convincing.
It wasn't a snake it had legs why can't you people that call yourselves smart figure this out. Sure it was man's fault, they did not have to listen to the serpent and act upon what he said, they could have remembered what God had taught them.
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RE: Sacrifice
August 27, 2015 at 9:48 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 2:17 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: Jesus was sinless, they were criminals who were being executed for their crimes. It took sinless innocent blood to atone fore your sin and mine. The difference between you and me, I accepted what Christ did for me.
GC
Sinless, yet baptized. 
You have no idea of why He was baptized do you, if you do please tell us?
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RE: Sacrifice
August 27, 2015 at 9:54 pm
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(August 27, 2015 at 9:48 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 2:17 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Sinless, yet baptized.
You have no idea of why He was baptized do you, if you do please tell us?
GC
An observant Jew becomes attached to a movement headed by an apocalyptic preacher called John The Baptist . . . hmm, let me think . . .
Is it really necessary to remind you that the rite as practiced by John and his followers was related to the confession and forgiveness of sins?
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RE: Sacrifice
August 27, 2015 at 10:08 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 10:10 am)Neimenovic Wrote: I don't get what is so special about JC dying on a cross. I mean ffs there were two other guys dying the same death right fucking there with him -_-
Jesus was sinless, they were criminals who were being executed for their crimes. It took sinless innocent blood to atone fore your sin and mine. The difference between you and me, I accepted what Christ did for me.
GC
Sorry GC, but accepting the punishment of another as a just atonement for your "crime" is just fucking sick. Since it was ok for jeeby do die for your "sins" would it be ok for the neighbor's 6-mont old to be killed to atone for your "sins?" After all, it's innocent blood.
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RE: Sacrifice
August 27, 2015 at 10:08 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 9:43 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 2:45 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If the shedding of blood is sinful, and Yahweh shed blood when he didn't have to, and demanded it on a regular basis, that means he was sinful. To say that it's ok when he does it is hypocritical.
No one said shedding blood was sinful.
GC
Then what did you mean by "the shedding of blood shows us the awfulness of sin"?
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RE: Sacrifice
August 27, 2015 at 10:10 pm
(August 27, 2015 at 9:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 27, 2015 at 3:09 pm)TubbyTubby Wrote: But GC, there were no Adam nor Eve. It's a story, badly written, means nothing, no morals, nothing. Let it go ffs.
Wrong!
GC
Evidence?
I know you fucking hate that word, but there it is. Until you or some other buy-bull thumping faither provides some...
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