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How Do You Get Over Death?
RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
(August 27, 2015 at 6:42 pm)IATIA Wrote: We should probably take this to a different thread if you are interested in continuing this particular discussion.

A "claim" is a pretty big pill to swallow.  As it stands, we can only see stars or EM that has reached us.  If there is a star 20 billion light years away, we will not see it for another 5 billion some years.  Because of this possibility, it is impossible to prove the extent of the universe.  It may very well be infinite in size with infinite matter.  The universe arising from a singularity has pretty much gone the way of the gods.
Thank you for completely ignoring the rest of my post, that was quite intellectually honest of you.

"It may very well be infinite in size with infinite matter." What the fuck? The universe could be made of donuts. Throwing things out in the ether without evidence is pointless. And, no, I am not going to make another thread. This thread "evolved," so continue the conversation or submit a resignation, but DO NOT ignore me without telling me in advance.
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
(August 28, 2015 at 12:58 am)Shuffle Wrote:
(August 27, 2015 at 6:42 pm)IATIA Wrote: We should probably take this to a different thread if you are interested in continuing this particular discussion.

A "claim" is a pretty big pill to swallow.  As it stands, we can only see stars or EM that has reached us.  If there is a star 20 billion light years away, we will not see it for another 5 billion some years.  Because of this possibility, it is impossible to prove the extent of the universe.  It may very well be infinite in size with infinite matter.  The universe arising from a singularity has pretty much gone the way of the gods.
Thank you for completely ignoring the rest of my post, that was quite intellectually honest of you.

"It may very well be infinite in size with infinite matter." What the fuck? The universe could be made of donuts. Throwing things out in the ether without evidence is pointless. And, no, I am not going to make another thread. This thread "evolved," so continue the conversation or submit a resignation, but DO NOT ignore me without telling me in advance.

Obviously you are behind in the new theories of the universe.  The mainstream thought is that space-time itself 'exploded', not a singularity and yes, it may very well be infinite in size with infinite matter.

Quote:According to NASA, scientists know that the universe is flat with only about a 0.4 percent margin of error (as of 2013). A flat universe is an infinite universe; thus the size of the universe is infinite.

I ignored what?
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
(August 4, 2015 at 9:52 pm)Shuffle Wrote: This question is obviously directed towards my fellow atheists, hence why it is in the Atheism Sub Forum.

Anyway, how did you get over the thought of dying? After the huge support structure called "Religion" was taken away from your life, how did you get over the thought of everything you have ever done having no effect on the Universe as a whole. Or everything ever done by anyone is going to be completely destroyed by the inevitable heat death of the Universe.

Personally I feel that, because of all of our fates, it makes life even more precious. This took me a while to understand, but hopefully most of you do.

I wanted to know if our reasons matched up or differed.

Thanks!

we die, that's that.  
I got over it.
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
(August 28, 2015 at 10:41 pm)comet Wrote:
(August 4, 2015 at 9:52 pm)Shuffle Wrote: This question is obviously directed towards my fellow atheists, hence why it is in the Atheism Sub Forum.

Anyway, how did you get over the thought of dying? After the huge support structure called "Religion" was taken away from your life, how did you get over the thought of everything you have ever done having no effect on the Universe as a whole. Or everything ever done by anyone is going to be completely destroyed by the inevitable heat death of the Universe.

Personally I feel that, because of all of our fates, it makes life even more precious. This took me a while to understand, but hopefully most of you do.

I wanted to know if our reasons matched up or differed.

Thanks!

we die, that's that.  
I got over it.
I got over it too, did you read the OP?!
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
(August 28, 2015 at 9:31 pm)IATIA Wrote:
(August 28, 2015 at 12:58 am)Shuffle Wrote: Thank you for completely ignoring the rest of my post, that was quite intellectually honest of you.

"It may very well be infinite in size with infinite matter." What the fuck? The universe could be made of donuts. Throwing things out in the ether without evidence is pointless. And, no, I am not going to make another thread. This thread "evolved," so continue the conversation or submit a resignation, but DO NOT ignore me without telling me in advance.

Obviously you are behind in the new theories of the universe.  The mainstream thought is that space-time itself 'exploded', not a singularity and yes, it may very well be infinite in size with infinite matter.

Quote:According to NASA, scientists know that the universe is flat with only about a 0.4 percent margin of error (as of 2013). A flat universe is an infinite universe; thus the size of the universe is infinite.

I ignored what?
How the hell do you include flat=infinite? And also, I am not flat, yet I live in something that is?
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
(August 28, 2015 at 11:38 pm)Shuffle Wrote: How the hell do you include flat=infinite? And also, I am not flat, yet I live in something that is?

I have already played this game. No thanks,
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson

God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers

Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders

Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
(August 29, 2015 at 1:49 am)IATIA Wrote:
(August 28, 2015 at 11:38 pm)Shuffle Wrote: How the hell do you include flat=infinite? And also, I am not flat, yet I live in something that is?

I have already played this game.  No thanks,

Ok then the games is over.
'
Thanks for playing.
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
(August 28, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Shuffle Wrote:
(August 28, 2015 at 10:41 pm)comet Wrote: we die, that's that.  
I got over it.
I got over it too, did you read the OP?!

I said it, we die. 

that's it till then.

we are at the very least the universe having a human experience.  Its no less than that. 
anti-logical Fallacies of Ambiguity
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
(August 29, 2015 at 5:56 pm)comet Wrote:
(August 28, 2015 at 11:34 pm)Shuffle Wrote: I got over it too, did you read the OP?!

I said it, we die. 

that's it till then.

we are at the very least the universe having a human experience.  Its no less than that. 

¿En inglés por favor?
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RE: How Do You Get Over Death?
As for myself, I'm pushing 60 and have been a 12 Stepper over 1/2 my life now. To date, I haven't had much anxiety about anticipating my demise or the circumstances thereof, I think I've 'cheated death' sufficiently to have an element of 'serenity' should the moment arise and I'm aware it's coming.

My hitting bottom with addiction was just less than the proverbial cunt hair from being fatal at the time, it's been the element of my success that mattered the most.

Upon achieving sobriety, I went on to lose 39 more (there was 1 before) friends and acquaintances to HIV so the Grim Reaper and I go way back as it is, If the bastard feels I teased him or cheated and didn't play fair, good for me. I still have a score to settle.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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