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RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 29, 2015 at 6:10 pm
(September 11, 2015 at 2:54 pm)CristW Wrote: (September 11, 2015 at 2:07 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Yes you could still be an atheist and believe in a soul.
You would not be a critical thinker, but you could still be an atheist.
Atheism is a position on a single claim, the existence of a god or gods. Anything beyond that one position is outside the purview of atheism.
Not all atheists are critical thinkers. I know atheists that believe in: alien visitations, ancient aliens, homeopathy, all sorts of conspiracy theories, etc.
1. I will have to disagree on your first point. Yes, there maybe some individuals that claim to be "atheists" but are rather skeptics. If you believe in a soul then you also would have to agree on the transmigration of the soul to either hell or heaven/paradise. If not then either you would believe the soul dies when the physical body dies or reincarnation or something similar.
Absolutely not true.
There many 'ancestor' religions (in China, native Americans, Japan, just to name a few) all over the world that have no god beliefs, or beliefs that the dead go to a heaven or a hell, yet they still believe in a soul that survives death.
Quote:2. The declaration and belief in NO GOD(s) is Atheism.
Nope. The disbelief in gods is atheism.
Quote:3. Atheism is based on a single claim. There are premise(s) to the claim (conclusion).
Atheism is the disbelief in a single claim, that at least one god exists.
The premises to the claim are individually debatable.
Any other position on any other claim is outside the purview of atheism.
Quote:4. Atheists who question and debate on "alien visitations, ancient aliens, homeopathy, all sorts of conspiracy theories, etc." are critically thinking on the previous subjects mentioned. That is "critical thinking". The same thing as we debate on ghosts, angels, demonology, etc.
Not sure exactly what you are saying, but there are plenty of theists that also use critical thinking on these other claims: ancient aliens, homeopathy, etc. [/quote]
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 29, 2015 at 7:03 pm
Op there's a difference in believing in a soul, and just believing in nonsense. A soul for me simply the deepest part of yourself, personality, and uniqueness or whatever.
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RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 29, 2015 at 7:10 pm
Seeing as how there isn't a soul, It's hard to accurately answer the question
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RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 29, 2015 at 7:19 pm
Quote:Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
No.
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RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 29, 2015 at 9:42 pm
(September 29, 2015 at 7:19 pm)Atheist_BG Wrote: Quote:Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
No.
The majority of Shintoists do not believe in any gods, this would categorize them at atheists. Yet they believe that after death they become a spirit.
They may not call it 'soul', but it sure fits the general definition.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 30, 2015 at 12:38 am
(September 29, 2015 at 7:19 pm)Atheist_BG Wrote: Quote:Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
No.
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RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 30, 2015 at 4:05 am
The soul is a fiction of The Brainwashing Factory.
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RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 30, 2015 at 4:07 am
(September 30, 2015 at 4:05 am)Atheist_BG Wrote: The soul is a fiction of The Brainwashing Factory.
You don't have to convince me. I don't believe in souls. But still, a person can believe in souls and still be an atheist.
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RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 30, 2015 at 4:12 am
(This post was last modified: September 30, 2015 at 4:14 am by robvalue.)
You can call it inconsistent to be atheist and believe in a soul, but that doesn't stop people doing it. Far from all atheists are sceptics. Far from all atheists even realize they are atheists, or have put any real thought into any of these issues. They just default to common woo, which is understandable. Some people just don't want to question such things as a soul. It makes them deeply uncomfortable.
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RE: Could you still be an Atheist and believe in a "Soul"?
September 30, 2015 at 9:40 pm
By definition the only requirement to being an atheist is that you do not believe in any gods. Thats it.
Is the concept of the soul vain, stupid and alittle bit cowardly? I couldn't possibly comment.
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