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Rapture September 2015
RE: Rapture September 2015
Good in slo-mo, though!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Rapture September 2015
(September 30, 2015 at 9:11 am)Randy Carson Wrote: The rapture, along with the false doctrines of sola scriptura and sola fide, are relatively modern Protestant heresies.

If you're interested, prof, I can show you why Catholicism is the one, true Church that Jesus founded.

Perhaps it's time to come home.

Brace yourselves! The great battle of bullshit is about to begin...

Popcorn
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RE: Rapture September 2015
(September 30, 2015 at 2:43 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(September 30, 2015 at 9:11 am)Randy Carson Wrote: The rapture, along with the false doctrines of sola scriptura and sola fide, are relatively modern Protestant heresies.

If you're interested, prof, I can show you why Catholicism is the one, true Church that Jesus founded.

Perhaps it's time to come home.

Brace yourselves! The great battle of bullshit is about to begin...

Popcorn

I doubt Professor will take the bait.

However, if Drich or Huggy decide to argue with Randy, you'll need a lot more sustenance than a bag of popcorn. The 30 Years War will seem like a three-day weekend in comparison.
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RE: Rapture September 2015
(September 30, 2015 at 3:29 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(September 30, 2015 at 2:43 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Brace yourselves! The great battle of bullshit is about to begin...

[emoji14]opcorn:

I doubt Professor will take the bait.

However, if Drich or Huggy decide to argue with Randy, you'll need a lot more sustenance than a bag of popcorn. The 30 Years War will seem like a three-day weekend in comparison.
We just need the Mystic Knight to chip in as well and it would be a veritable cornucopia of mythical contradictions. Theists rarely cross that line of questioning anothers differing faith as it runs a bit too close to home. Dismissing an opposing belief must open their minds slightly to how fragile their own is.
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RE: Rapture September 2015
(September 30, 2015 at 3:53 pm)TubbyTubby Wrote: Theists rarely cross that line of questioning anothers differing faith as it runs a bit too close to home. Dismissing an opposing belief must open their minds slightly to how fragile their own is.

Sorry, but I disagree with both sentences.

Have you ever heard a Southern Baptist run down Catholics for being Papists, at best, or Satanic dupes at the more extreme end of the vitriol spectrum? Have you ever heard Catholics or members of certain "high" Protestant congregations talk about Southern Baptists or Evangelicals? It's as if they are referring to a bunch of uncouth, semi-literate savages. (OK, even a blind squirrel gets lucky once in a while.) Hell, it wasn't so long ago that Belfast didn't figure as anyone's idea of a vacation destination, unless they had family to visit. The Crips and the Bloods are amateurs compared to the Orange and the Green. And European history is awash in the blood of Christians butchering each other (when they weren't too busy picking on the Jews) over differences in dogma that must strike any outsider as little more than "my crazy shit it truer than your crazy shit!"

And that's just the Christian intra-faith squabbles.

Christians aren't the least bit reluctant to point out why Jews and Muslims have it all wrong. The Muslims fight with fucking everyone (Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists) when they're not busy fighting among themselves. And on and on it goes.

No, theists cross that line all the time -- just not often in "polite" public debate. Most of them have been sufficiently housebroken to avoid that in the name of ecumenicalism. But behind closed doors? That's a different story.

As for their avoiding debate or publicly dismissing others' beliefs because it hits too close to home or thinking that being skeptical about someone else's faith opens them up to the fragility of their own beliefs, don't count on it. Few theists are willing to say they could be entirely wrong, especially the Abrahamic religionists. They think they are in possession of God's last word on the subject. It's everyone else who is wrong.

Just ask them.

Edited to add: Yes, MysticKnight would be a nice addition to the menagerie. Perhaps we could entice Rik to join in as well -- you know, to baffle everyone with his yogic "scientific" perspective.
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RE: Rapture September 2015
(September 30, 2015 at 4:24 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: No, theists cross that line all the time -- just not often in "polite" public debate. Most of them have been sufficiently housebroken to avoid that in the name of ecumenicalism. But behind closed doors? That's a different story.

Yes, that's probably where I was going, I never see them go at each other on here.
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RE: Rapture September 2015
(September 30, 2015 at 4:57 pm)TubbyTubby Wrote:
(September 30, 2015 at 4:24 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: No, theists cross that line all the time -- just not often in "polite" public debate. Most of them have been sufficiently housebroken to avoid that in the name of ecumenicalism. But behind closed doors? That's a different story.

Yes, that's probably where I was going, I never see them go at each other on here.

Right. Here they strive to present a united front, link arms, and defend their bullshit to the last man (not all of them, but most). An intra-faith squabble on an atheist site would be too scandalous and lend too much ammo to the folks chortling in the peanut gallery.

And I should probably toss out a belated kudos to Randy for even offering to go there with Professor. It's nice to see one of our believers not paper over doctrinal/denominational differences. That is a conversation I would enjoy reading.
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RE: Rapture September 2015
Crossless is right on, I already told Randy the truth about the Rapture passages in the bible.
 I stick with that. 

Besides, today is my last day here ( unless I come back to visit after the Departure- and when it comes, you will ALL know it,
you may quip the pre-programed BS about aliens and UFOs, but the Prof has told you ahead of time about that).

I suspect I am the only one here who accepts the pre-tribulation Rapture position, so, I suppose Randy will be unopposed.

This high watch period for me will end on Oct 8 (not that I will do anything different) and Professor will go into full Winter Prep mode- fueling up the snow blower/ plow/ studded snow tires, etc- after Nov 11.

Eleven eleven, is the 17th day of the second month on the Hebrew calendar (from the actual sighting of the moon Tishri 1)
 - same day the Flood came, same day Adam and Eve fell, and the same day the Balfour Declaration was made
 (in preparation for a regathering of Jewish people to their ancient homeland, to fulfill prophecy).
 So if that time passes, Prof will be perplexed but never down and out.

Hey, the False Prophet just left here, after kissey kissey privately with the AC, and trumpeting most of the goals of the New World Order.
Then, declaring the cross of Jesus to be a failure- humanly speaking (doublespeak anyone?) so the train is still on the tracks.
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RE: Rapture September 2015
<Having "Spare Professor During the Rapture" t-shirt made>

You can't go, Professor. The other Christians aren't nearly as much fun. You complete me.
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RE: Rapture September 2015
(September 30, 2015 at 3:29 pm)Crossless1 Wrote:
(September 30, 2015 at 2:43 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Brace yourselves! The great battle of bullshit is about to begin...

Popcorn

I doubt Professor will take the bait.

However, if Drich or Huggy decide to argue with Randy, you'll need a lot more sustenance than a bag of popcorn. The 30 Years War will seem like a three-day weekend in comparison.

Maybe they'll all kill each other?
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