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The Paradox of Power....
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(October 4, 2015 at 7:48 am)Elpidio Chuy Wrote: again,God tells us in bold terms the root problem. It’s not the non-believers’ view of the Book; it’s their view of the Author. All people already know God because He is clearly seen in His creation, and His moral law is also written on their hearts (Romans 1:20, 2:15). But they “suppress,” or hold down, the truth in unrighteousness because their proud hearts are rebellious and they do not want to submit to the truth (Romans 1:18, 1:21–23, 2:14–15).

Yeah dude, you reply that to everyone that calls you a poe, that you are. It is so easy to do that. What are you trying to prove?
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Is it April's fools again? The only reason I ask this it's because its October Big Grin
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(October 4, 2015 at 7:51 am)EvidenceVersusFaith Wrote: Don't just spam the same message, poe.

Obvious poe is obvious.

Tbh I don't think it even classifies as a poe - the whole point with a poe is it's supposed to not be obvious, the retardedness of religious craziness is supposed to be indistinguishable from the retardedness of the poe's craziness.

This is just plain obvious. An obvious poe is kind of an oxymoron.

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If you call on him and do his will he will be with you and he will save you!

(October 4, 2015 at 7:54 am)LastPoet Wrote:
(October 4, 2015 at 7:48 am)Elpidio Chuy Wrote: again,God tells us in bold terms the root problem. It’s not the non-believers’ view of the Book; it’s their view of the Author. All people already know God because He is clearly seen in His creation, and His moral law is also written on their hearts (Romans 1:20, 2:15). But they “suppress,” or hold down, the truth in unrighteousness because their proud hearts are rebellious and they do not want to submit to the truth (Romans 1:18, 1:21–23, 2:14–15).

Yeah dude, you reply that to everyone that calls you a poe, that you are. It is so easy to do that. What are you trying to prove?

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(October 2, 2015 at 10:50 am)Elpidio Chuy Wrote: Just leave them ronedee these fool's don't want to listen.Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall.They never learn.They just love to thrive in there sin's.I would actually define them apthiestic since they don't care about God on whether he exist's or he doesn't but never mind they'll learn in Hell.
Do not speak in the hearing of a fool, For he will despise the wisdom of your words.Proverbs 23:9
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.Proverbs 18:2

my bold

More like being talked to by a brick wall.

Why do you think your approach is ever going to win converts? If god pays by commission, you're going to be a poor man in heaven.
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Is there some reason this turd hasn't been flushed?
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(October 4, 2015 at 8:59 am)emjay Wrote:
(October 2, 2015 at 10:50 am)Elpidio Chuy Wrote: Just leave them ronedee these fool's don't want to listen.Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall.They never learn.They just love to thrive in there sin's.I would actually define them apthiestic since they don't care about God on whether he exist's or he doesn't but never mind they'll learn in Hell.
Do not speak in the hearing of a fool, For he will despise the wisdom of your words.Proverbs 23:9
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.Proverbs 18:2

my bold

More like being talked to by a brick wall.

Why do you think your approach is ever going to win converts? If god pays by commission, you're going to be a poor man in heaven.
In heaven nobody's poor,but there are ranks.
but it is not exactly the kind of 'rank' we see on earth.
Now in Christ,we believer's are all equal in worth and dignity, but we aren't all equal in how we chose to exercise that on earth.

We know that the Twelve Apostles, for example, will be 'set up' as part of the heavenly rule in the New Jerusalem. But will they be 'lording it over us', or will they be exerting themselves to the utmost to SERVE us? I think the latter.

Mary's being Queen doesn't mean she is going to be sitting on a throne eating cherry bonbons and expecting us all to come up and curtsey to her every minute. .it means that as Queen she is going to be serving us, just as Christ, the "Master", made Himself a servant to the least ones. 

So the 'higher' a person is (by virtue of his/her striving in life to be like Christ), the more that person in heaven will be attending to God and to others. We won't be noticing their rank by our being 'inferior' to them, but instead we will rejoice with them as they and we serve God to our fullness, forever.

According to the Sacred Council of Trent (1545-63) Session VI Canon 32 (D 842), a just person earns an increase of heavenly glory through good works.



Quote:842 Can. 32. If anyone shall say that the good works of the man justified are in such a way the gifts of God that they are not also the good merits of him who is justified, or that the one justified by the good works, which are done by him through the grace of God and the merit of Jesus Christ (whose living member he is), does not truly merit increase of grace, eternal life, and the attainment of that eternal life (if he should die in grace), and also an increase of glory: let him be anathema [cf. n. 803and 809].

Likewise Church Father Tertullian of Carthage (c. 160 - c. 225) draws a reference (Scorpiace, Chapter 6) to the many mansions in Christ mentions St. John 14:2, and the varying glory of the Sun, the Moon and the stars St. Paul speaks about in 1. Cor. 15:41.


Quote:Or how will there be many mansions in our Father's house, if not to accord with a diversity of deserts? How will one star also differ from another star in glory, unless in virtue of disparity in their rays?




(October 4, 2015 at 9:01 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Is there some reason this turd hasn't been flushed?

And why should I get
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I just need announce.That I will going on holiday to Dubai for 4 week's,so you won't see me,I will be going tomorrow morning.So I will see you later.
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(October 4, 2015 at 9:10 am)Elpidio Chuy Wrote:
(October 4, 2015 at 8:59 am)emjay Wrote: my bold

More like being talked to by a brick wall.

Why do you think your approach is ever going to win converts? If god pays by commission, you're going to be a poor man in heaven.
In heaven nobody's poor,but there are ranks.
but it is not exactly the kind of 'rank' we see on earth.
Now in Christ,we believer's are all equal in worth and dignity, but we aren't all equal in how we chose to exercise that on earth.

We know that the Twelve Apostles, for example, will be 'set up' as part of the heavenly rule in the New Jerusalem. But will they be 'lording it over us', or will they be exerting themselves to the utmost to SERVE us? I think the latter.

Mary's being Queen doesn't mean she is going to be sitting on a throne eating cherry bonbons and expecting us all to come up and curtsey to her every minute. .it means that as Queen she is going to be serving us, just as Christ, the "Master", made Himself a servant to the least ones. 

So the 'higher' a person is (by virtue of his/her striving in life to be like Christ), the more that person in heaven will be attending to God and to others. We won't be noticing their rank by our being 'inferior' to them, but instead we will rejoice with them as they and we serve God to our fullness, forever.

According to the Sacred Council of Trent (1545-63) Session VI Canon 32 (D 842), a just person earns an increase of heavenly glory through good works.

Quote:842 Can. 32. If anyone shall say that the good works of the man justified are in such a way the gifts of God that they are not also the good merits of him who is justified, or that the one justified by the good works, which are done by him through the grace of God and the merit of Jesus Christ (whose living member he is), does not truly merit increase of grace, eternal life, and the attainment of that eternal life (if he should die in grace), and also an increase of glory: let him be anathema [cf. n. 803and 809].

Likewise Church Father Tertullian of Carthage (c. 160 - c. 225) draws a reference (Scorpiace, Chapter 6) to the many mansions in Christ mentions St. John 14:2, and the varying glory of the Sun, the Moon and the stars St. Paul speaks about in 1. Cor. 15:41.

Quote:Or how will there be many mansions in our Father's house, if not to accord with a diversity of deserts? How will one star also differ from another star in glory, unless in virtue of disparity in their rays?

What I mean is, the way you talk about us - as fools but never mind we'll learn in hell - clearly doesn't come from a position of love your fellow man. This inner peace and joy you claim to have seems more like schadenfreude. And the question is, does that matter with god? Are good works with bad intentions just as valid with him? If they are, then it's just about brownie points, and so the question becomes, are you being paid by the hour or by commission? Will you be rewarded in heaven for the number of souls you've actually brought to god (commission) or just being able to say "I tried" (even if you didn't try that hard and your heart wasn't in it).
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Yes, it's schadenfreude. He is just another Catholic asshole cut from the same cloth as Tertullian.
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Quote:What I mean is, the way you talk about us - as fools but never mind we'll learn in hell - clearly doesn't come from a position of love your fellow man. This inner peace and joy you claim to have seems more like schadenfreude. And the question is, does that matter with god? Are good works with bad intentions just as valid with him? If they are, then it's just about brownie points, and so the question becomes, are you being paid by the hour or by commission? Will you be rewarded in heaven for the number of souls you've actually brought to god (commission) or just being able to say "I tried" (even if you didn't try that hard and your heart wasn't in it).

After all I did,you understood,nothing,I tried for you so that you will believe but I did it because I love God,because I love God I must love you.The effort of trying also has the effect.
When I said "you will learn in hell" means "you WILL believe but it will be too late".But let's say for argument's sake that you don't know for certain that Hell exists. Are you willing to burn in Hell for all eternity if you're wrong? Common sense tells us that sin MUST be punished. Our very human soul tells us that there MUST be a God Who is going to judge every human being in eternity. The Bible warns in Ecclesiastes 12:14, “For God shall bring every work into judgement, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
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Pray harder.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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