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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
October 30, 2015 at 9:08 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 8:56 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 8:54 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: You cannot find the true answer when you start with an answer and seek ways to validate it. To find truth you need to look at all of the solutions and potential answers.
Is this true though? Can we actually look ALL solutions and potential answers, are our minds even big enough for that? Or is one that is convincing and proven by reason sufficient without knowing all potential answers or theories as solutions out there?
A convincing statement and a true statement are two completely different things, MK, I hope you understand that. You are right that we cannot know for sure which is true, because we can't be sure we have looked at, or even thought of all of the other possibilities, that is why we have to be open to constantly question what we feel is true and submit our truth to peer scrutiny.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
October 30, 2015 at 9:09 pm
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I know the argument is so over-used these days, but why Islam in particular?
You just follow that religion because your parents do. Why not the many Gods of Hinduism or feathered serpent Kukulkan of the Maya? Why are these less likely to be true than your religion? Just because yours has 1 billion followers? So does Hinduism before you try that.
I don't claim to have the answer about whether there's a God or not. It's beyond our comprehension, we don't know either way. What I know for a fact is that, as Christopher Hitchens said, the particular God The Abrahamic Religions depicts did not just sit there for 100 000 years and wait until so recently to decide to show his face. These religions are all interpretations of how we got here, and I'm not here for their "objective morality" invented by ancient men who were on a power trip.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
October 30, 2015 at 9:09 pm
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I'm getting the feeling that even -that- is going to be too difficult, for islam, Magi.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
October 30, 2015 at 9:11 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 9:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'm getting the feeling that even -that- is going to be too difficult, for islam, Magi.
Maybe, or maybe when it happens, people will conclusively see it's the truth.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
October 30, 2015 at 9:14 pm
This thread is meant to be a thought experiment, what I actually am is irrelevant.
But anyhow, you don't know I'm human, you are assuming a lot about me there. If God can't be human, assume I'm not human.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
October 30, 2015 at 9:18 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 9:14 pm)robvalue Wrote: This thread is meant to be a thought experiment, what I actually am is irrelevant.
But anyhow, you don't know I'm human, you are assuming a lot about me there. If God can't be human, assume I'm not human.
Why can't a god be a human? Man is made in god's image? right? So god too must be a mirror image of man
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
October 30, 2015 at 9:20 pm
I have no idea, I'd have thought God could do whatever. But he seems to have arbitrary restrictions to help apologists in each situation, then snaps back to all powerful when the restrictions are no longer needed.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
October 30, 2015 at 9:21 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 9:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 9:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'm getting the feeling that even -that- is going to be too difficult, for islam, Magi.
Maybe, or maybe when it happens, people will conclusively see it's the truth.
So you'd rather preach something blindly knowing full well you could be wrong, yet claim it to be true, instead of seeking truth? Isn't that a bit dishonest MK?
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
October 30, 2015 at 9:27 pm
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Honesty? Pft, fuck that.....it's piety that Mystics after, clearly. That's the only defense against evil magic.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
October 30, 2015 at 9:27 pm
(October 30, 2015 at 9:21 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: (October 30, 2015 at 9:11 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Maybe, or maybe when it happens, people will conclusively see it's the truth.
So you'd rather preach something blindly knowing full well you could be wrong, yet claim it to be true, instead of seeking truth? Isn't that a bit dishonest MK?
His book is true, because his book says his book is true. Just like every other theist.
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