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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
November 10, 2015 at 7:57 am
(November 10, 2015 at 7:29 am)robvalue Wrote: Huh? You're not happy with life so you must invent fairy tales to feel better?
No, the universe isn't evidence of anything except itself. We don't know its origins. You're claiming to know more about Cosmology than all of science just by looking at stuff.
When don't know, but the odds of an explosion, that is perfect in every sense to produce earth ? you realize that if a fraction was wrong in the formula, we wouldn't have existed ?
I'm not happy with life, because I know everything would be gone.
And that long sleep at the end, it sends chills in my spine, I know i'll be next, asking "when" solves nothing to me. It's coming.
The universe has enough signs, the odds are too many, vast. Since we know nothing before the big bang, you too can't disprove God from my head.
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I went with the book he sent. It's pretty logical to me.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
November 10, 2015 at 8:00 am
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So we have the argument from fine tuning, the argument from personal discomfort and then the argument from ignorance.
I think I'm going to give up now, I can't face going through all those again, and they have nothing to do with the original question.
Unless someone really wants me to. Let me know, and I'll point out the flawed logic.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
November 10, 2015 at 8:01 am
So the claim is your evidence for the claim? Then it's official - Obi-Wan Kenobi really did rise from the dead. The film proves it.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
November 10, 2015 at 9:22 am
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I'm going to run a recap real quick. If I misrepresent anyone, my apologies, please let me know and I'll amend. Thanks to all that have participated!
If God is right in front of you, how can he prove he is God?
Alpha male: Feats such as raising the dead and parting the sea, and resembling a god character in a book. However, a God is indistinguishable from an arbitrarily powerful alien.
Mystic Knight: Write about how wonderful he is on everyone's souls. (I took this challenge personally, and have done it. I'm awaiting my certificate.)
Atlas: Impossible since anyone God goes near will die. He can however interact, presumably from a distance, and you can tell it's God because you would "just know".
ChadW: He has to fulfil OT prophecies, die, and come back to life in 3 days in front of 500 people. (I'm a bit confused because I thought he already did all that.)
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
November 10, 2015 at 11:47 am
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(November 10, 2015 at 9:22 am)robvalue Wrote: Mystic Knight: Write about how wonderful he is on everyone's souls. (I took this challenge personally, and have done it. I'm awaiting my certificate.) Except you haven't done it, and there is only one absolutely great being by definition, and God has done it. You Rob have nothing to do with how souls are judged, yet God's Name written on every soul, and the depth of their identity, is how they are measured by, and how they relate to. Your identity is not a universal archetype like that of God, who's names and attributes have filled the foundation of all things. You are a possibly existing being, while he is a necessary being, by which all things exist.
Every soul knows in their depth eternal absolute greatness is the source of all greatness and praise, including theirs, and is light of praise and greatness, the true life by which all life exists.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
November 10, 2015 at 11:53 am
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Excuse me?
I am God. I'm just going by the username rob on this forum. I have done it. Is it not written on your soul? Your lack of faith is absolutely shocking. You don't want to know what notes I've been making.
See, you are capable of scepticism. You just turn it off when dealing with your own religion.
I see you missed me saying what the real point of this thread was again. I'll try once more:
How can Allah prove to you he is Allah?
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
November 10, 2015 at 12:02 pm
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(November 10, 2015 at 11:53 am)robvalue Wrote: I see you missed me saying what the real point of this thread was again. I'll try once more:
How can Allah prove to you he is Allah?
I'm replying to that. God has filled everything with his words, signs, names, attributes, glories, beauties, and they all testify to the source, and the treasures in the soul testify to an eternal treasure who unites all praise, glory, and beauty in a single undivided essence, a pure unity of absolute highness. They testify to Him to the extent we know there is nothing with him is own realm which is himself, rather, he is the living by which all life exists, excelling in life, not missing in him any life, and all life exists through his command.
Just as God knows himself, he has given a degree of knowledge of true independent existence (God) to all existing things. Just as he knows he unites all praise, and the link of all praise to him through his name/face, creation have been given degree of that knowledge.
The higher they get and more "life" they get, the more they increase in vision of this knowledge and firmness in it.
We can see we belong to God, because we borrow existence from his Existence.
You aren't the absolute living, God doesn't speak to humanity unless with proof.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
November 10, 2015 at 12:05 pm
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That didn't answer my question at all.
Allah is in front of you. How can he prove he is Allah? How do you know he is the one that did all this stuff and he's not just something claiming credit for it?
Are you saying you'd "just know"? How can you tell your emotions aren't being manipulated by some alien technology? Are you infallible?
I see your lack of faith in me is continuing. You think your God cannot choose to take human form. You think he's a pathetic weasel. That's another 893 naughty points. No, make that 902.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
November 10, 2015 at 12:09 pm
You are now going to how would God prove he is speaking to someone or revealing a revelation, however, God would never be in front of anyone, far exalted he be above that.
That's why I said the better philosophical game would be "I am a Messenger from God, what do I have to do, to prove it to you".
And the questions has two segments:
1) To your generation.
2) To lasting generations.
They are two different answers.
The number 1 is easy. The number 2 is more difficult.
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RE: I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?
November 10, 2015 at 12:14 pm
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He would never be in front of anyone.
OK, that's another way I'm more powerful than God! I can be in front of people.
Well, that's the end then. The question cannot be answered, God cannot prove he is God to you. Thanks for your answer
PS: another way I'm more powerful than God. I can prove to people, beyond reasonable doubt, that I am myself.
It's odd that Atlas said that Allah would kill you if he was in front of you, but you said he just won't do it. I wonder which is correct?
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