I'm God. What evidence do I need to provide?

[Longhorn]

This thread is deeply fascinating to me, on an organic level. It's like listening to a debate between two people of the same language but different dialects, using different meanings of the same words. Which it essentially is, I guess

[Fidel_Castronaut]

So that was 10 minutes I will never get back.

[robvalue]

That's what she said.

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I'm still fascinated by the hypothesis that God can't be distinguished from an arbitrarily powerful alien. Only one person has admitted this, but no one else has provided any criteria for telling them apart. Since any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, and theists generally demand just a load of magic...

Is it of concern that "God" could just be an alien fucking with you, holding no powers to grant an afterlife and conspicuously absent from all meetings regarding the construction of reality?

Another layer for Pascal's Wager Failure.

[Athene]

A photo I.D. would be sufficient.

[ignoramus]

Does anybody here really think our sacred books are the inerrant words of highly sophisticated alien beings.
Back to square one.

It was and is just plain manipulative bullsht. Nothing's changed to this day.

[robvalue]

They could instead be very calculated documents, deliberately full of nonsense and contradiction, that the aliens predicted would get people to believe them the most.

They must be laughing their arses off. Because aliens have a sense of humour, even if their mouth is on their arse.

[Mystic]

You are now going to how would God prove he is speaking to someone or revealing a revelation, however, God would never be in front of anyone, far exalted he be above that.

That's why I said the better philosophical game would be "I am a Messenger from God, what do I have to do, to prove it to you".

And the questions has two segments:

1) To your generation.
2) To lasting generations.

They are two different answers.

The number 1 is easy. The number 2 is more difficult.

You're going to have to explain how Allah is not subject to the hard philosophical problems of induction and solipsism.
How can It know that It is not a created being and ignorant of that fact?
'It just does' is not an adequate answer.

This is a recursive problem in which you've stopped at the first step.
Every time we've been able to look farther, reality is shown to be greater than we thought.
Why does your God not have the same issue?

God knows himself, and he being such as that he is absolute life, he knows he misses nothing in it's absence and encompasses all possible "life". He sees himself which is a witness to all things, and his knowledge of himself, is knowledge of all things. He is the absolute being such that there is nothing to keep him company nor anything to miss in it's absence.

[Edwardo Piet]

Evidence Rob? Evidence?

Oh hohoho (well it's getting near to Christmas okay?) : you don't need evidence! If you're truly a deity just threaten me with hell and I'll bow down to you and do whatever.

It's kinda too late though now, you expected us to need evidence of you... and no real deity would accept any standard of evidence, they'd just make threats, be indistinguishable from their non-existence and tell us we "gotta have faith" (usually while drinking a giant bottle of Diet Coke... oh no wait I'm getting confused).

Problem is you already blown your cover as an imposter Rob by expecting yourself to provide evidence for your existence. The problem is that you have too much evidence and you're not threatening us with hellfire. That would be the godly thing to do.

[robvalue]

Whoops! What a rookie mistake

Wait, no. I'm a new age God. I'm into providing evidence for myself, not sending millions of messengers on my behalf all with different messages. And I'm into peace and goodwill, I won't be threatening anyone.

[Edwardo Piet]

A new age God... interesting. Do I still get to forgo my personal responsibility of my more difficult decisions and leave it up to you and then when you do fuck all about it I can say it was never meant to be and you had better things in store for me?

I mean, I'm fine with any new agey shit but as long as I get to forgo the personality responsiblity of more difficult decisions.... oh that and can I please not have to deal with my own or my loved ones' mortality? Is there an afterlife in your version of reality God Rob? Robby God? Got the Robster? G-Rob?