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Christianity must Implode
#51
RE: Christianity must Implode
(November 23, 2015 at 10:33 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(November 23, 2015 at 12:51 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: So the John character must have been more powerful than the Jesus character because he changed Jesus' self-stated mission.  

Since you are a believer what tribe did you join so that you can pass through one of the twelve gates?
Jesus speaking..
Quote:Mark 16:15
15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Also
Quote:Joel 2:28
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Quote:Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

The gospel went to the Jews FIRST, no where is it stated it is for the Jews only.

Also you keep referring to new Jerusalem being a golden cube, how do you figure the city is shaped like a cube?
I'm not a Jew; I'm not a Greek.  Therefore the message doesn't apply to me.

http://www.truthinlove.com/gallery/NewJerusalem.jpg

The description of the gaudy bejeweled golden cube called New Jerusalem is found in Revelation 21:10-27.  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...;MEV;VOICE

The place is described as a cube in Revelation 21:15-16 (Voice) = "15 My guide held a golden measuring rod. With it he measured the city and the gates and the walls. 16 And the city is laid out with four corners in a perfect square, the length the same as its width. He measured the city with his measuring rod, and the result was that its length and width and height are equal: 1,444 miles, a perfect cube."

BTW, the early Christians were real bigots.

3 John 1:7 =https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=3%20John%201:7&version=CEB;NKJV;KJV;MEV;GNV
(CEB) = "7 because they left on their journey for the sake of Jesus Christ without accepting any support from the Gentiles."
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#52
RE: Christianity must Implode
Lek: I am glad that you do want equal rights. But if they can't have a marriage, then that is one less right.

If you imagine all non Christians could marry, but Christians could have the same rights but could only have what were called "civil partnerships" or "bullshit marriages" then maybe you'd understand why this is offensive. I doubt you'd take "It's always been this way that Christians aren't allowed to have a proper marriage" as a satisfactory answer.

You're requesting there be no difference, while being very particular about highlighting the second class nature of homosexual relationships.

Why has it "always been this way?" Homophobia. Why would you want to keep it this way? Homophobia. I think people who don't want gays to be able to be "married" feel like their own marriage gets somehow less special if you start letting gays do it, and you can't let them be just like "normal people".

I'll get off your case now Smile I've had my little rant. I am happy you at least want them to have the rights, many people don't even go that far.
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#53
RE: Christianity must Implode
(November 24, 2015 at 3:19 am)robvalue Wrote: Lek: I am glad that you do want equal rights.

If you imagine all non Christians could marry, but Christians could have the same rights but could only have what were called "civil partnerships" or "bullshit marriages" then maybe you'd understand why this is offensive. I doubt you'd take "It's always been this way that Christians aren't allowed to have a proper marriage" as a satisfactory answer.

You're requesting there be no difference, while being very particular about highlighting the second class nature of homosexual relationships.
Hell, if Christians really believed in biblical marriages they would have to marry their dead brothers' wives.
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#54
RE: Christianity must Implode
(November 24, 2015 at 3:11 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The place is described as a cube in Revelation 21:15-16 (Voice) = "15 My guide held a golden measuring rod. With it he measured the city and the gates and the walls. 16 And the city is laid out with four corners in a perfect square, the length the same as its width. He measured the city with his measuring rod, and the result was that its length and width and height are equal: 1,444 miles, a perfect cube."

...or a pyramid.

Seeing how the bible describes it as a "mountain" it is far more likely the latter.
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#55
RE: Christianity must Implode
(November 24, 2015 at 3:48 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(November 24, 2015 at 3:11 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: The place is described as a cube in Revelation 21:15-16 (Voice) = "15 My guide held a golden measuring rod. With it he measured the city and the gates and the walls. 16 And the city is laid out with four corners in a perfect square, the length the same as its width. He measured the city with his measuring rod, and the result was that its length and width and height are equal: 1,444 miles, a perfect cube."

...or a pyramid.

Seeing how the bible describes it as a "mountain" it is far more likely the latter.
You've convinced me.
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#56
RE: Christianity must Implode
Min, these were great! Where did you find them? Although, a few of them seemed to be missing the correct answer:

(November 13, 2015 at 7:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: 4. One day while jogging in the park, you see a maniac with a butcher knife about to attack a six-year old girl. Which would be the most morally proper action to take?

a. Grab the nearest rock and beat off the attacker
b. Call the police on your cell phone
c. Yell "POLICE!" and run toward the attacker in a threatening manner
d. Calmly walk away, because God works in mysterious ways, and what appears "evil" to our finite human mind, may in fact be part of a vaster plan in God's infinite mind, so it's best not to interfere

e. Do nothing, because it is morally wrong to interfere with free will.


(November 13, 2015 at 7:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: 5. You are the incarnated Son of the all-powerful and all-loving Creator of the universe. What would be a good way to demonstrate your compassion and power?

a. Cure cancer forever
b. Cause all the earth's deserts to bloom with food crops
c. Unite the world with a common language and an end to poverty
d. Kill a fig tree, conjure up a jug of wine and follow it up by walking on water

e. "Cure" original sin... which apparently had been dealt with adequately with burnt offerings for the last several thousand years. Also, up the ante for not listening to God from "death" to "eternal torture".


(November 13, 2015 at 7:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: 7. You are the Creator of the universe. Your chosen people are a tribe of nomadic herdsmen, presently in bondage on one of the millions of your planets. Their ruler is being quite obstinate. Keeping in mind that you possess not only infinite power but also infinite love, your best course of action would be to:

a. Cause the ruler to drop dead of a heart attack
b. Cause the ruler to fall off a cliff
c. Visit the ruler in a dream and persuade him to let your people go
d. Slaughter a great number of innocent babies who had nothing to do with the ruler's policies

e. As 'd', after forcibly making the leader change his mind back several times.


(November 13, 2015 at 7:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: 13. Conceding that torture is permissible under certain conditions, which of the following would be the best justification?

a. Your prisoner is the only one who knows the date and time of an assassination attempt on the Pope
b. Your prisoner is the only one who knows where a nuclear device has been planted in Washington, D.C.
c. Your prisoner is the only one who knows where a vial of nerve gas has been placed in the London water supply system
d. Your prisoner has announced that the earth revolves around the sun

e. Your prisoner, who is infinitely less intelligent and mature than you, hurt your feelings.


(November 13, 2015 at 7:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: 21. Jesus was God, and God knows all things, including all the medical knowledge that will ever be known. Why did Jesus blame demons for the case of epilepsy he cured?

a. He was suffering from a temporary case of "brain freeze"
b. The Aramaic word for "demon" is the same as the word for "cranial malfunction"
c. Neurology was not his specialty
d. In first-century Palestine, demons really did cause epilepsy. This affliction only began to be caused by anomalous electrochemical brain activity after about 1850 A.D.

e. Apparently, each entity of the Trinity has a different pool of knowledge (like the Father knowing the date of the end of the world, and not the Son), despite them all being the same God. This renders the Trinity to be more of an incorporation for the sole purpose of monotheistic branding and labeling.
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#57
RE: Christianity must Implode
Christianity would implode if someone with the faith of a mustard seed (or greater) prayed for God to stop existing.
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#58
RE: Christianity must Implode
This hell shit sickens me.  If a white man went into a church in mississippi and threatened to burn everyone there it would be hate speech, unless he was a missionary...at which point he's a good guy doing gods work.  Inexplicable.
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#59
RE: Christianity must Implode
A moderator resurrects a zombie! Inexplicable.
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#60
RE: Christianity must Implode
Hehe, actually a misplaced post that fit well enough, so I left it.  We move in mysterious ways.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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