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RE: Morality versus afterlife
January 6, 2016 at 1:24 pm
Well, good luck with getting any answers from your desired group. I consider that saddling up Rosinante.
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RE: Morality versus afterlife
January 6, 2016 at 1:38 pm
Naked assertion+moving the goal posts=Means what it means unless it doesn't mean what it means then it means what suits their desires.
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RE: Morality versus afterlife
January 6, 2016 at 2:17 pm
A lot don't follow it now Rob. Just a quick "sorry god, try not to do it again" or " here is the money, we're good now right" and they are still in for the ultimate prize. I think that after life prize/punishment does very little to effect the day to day application of morals.
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RE: Morality versus afterlife
January 6, 2016 at 2:18 pm
True, they probably don't. But many would still claim that they do, I expect. I'm interested in whether the fixation on God's opinion would change if there wasn't any eternal stakes involved.
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RE: Morality versus afterlife
January 6, 2016 at 3:10 pm
I will answer as someone who recently believed.
The answer is no.
My primary reason for following God was self preservation, i.e. fear of Hell.
I'm not going to say that I didn't consider God's rules to be truly moral. I did. I just failed time and time again to live up to that standard. Had I learned that there would ultimately be no consequences for my "dirty thoughts", I would never have put so much pressure on myself to be what I couldn't be. Instead, I would have probably rationalized God's standard as his way of just showing us how hopelessly corrupt we are and how tolerant and longsuffering He is for letting us be that way.