Islam and its History and Impact of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)

[The Grand Nudger]

Mohamed, a socialist and a humanist......... 

I think somebodies hoodwinked you about one of those three things.

if this man was a crazy liar evil person like you imagine

What do you know about what I imagine?  Say it with me, "nothing".   The rest was a waste of both of our time.

[mr_j936]

edit: not sure why my post did not show

I did not say Muhammad only married virgins, in fact I did not mention virginity in any way, that's not something I would think about I know he married 6 years old onwards. He married safia after murdering her family, perhaps you can tell us a bit about that.

Also if people who knew him personally began to doubt him in the end, why should anyone a thousand years later believe in him? 

Taking care of your breath to please the ladies is not a humanist thing. And marrying the widows of men you conveniently sent to war to die on your behalf is not a thoughtful thing either.

About the heir are you referring to Ali? I would rather not go into that debate, blood has been spilled over it and it isn't over.

Finally, Hitler had a dog, called Blondy, and he so loved that dog and treated it well, he also treated his personal staff like family and was so kind to them. Does that make him a good man? Most Muslims think highly of him so I probably should not have asked that.

[CapnAwesome]

Muhammad is by far the worst of the worlds major religious founders . He was a slaver, warlord, murderer and pedophile. His delusions were probably from having a case of temporal lobe epilepsy. You see a direct reflection of Muhammad in terrorist groups today. Muhammad enslaved people, so ISIS does. Saudi Arabia's age of consent is 9. Why? Well that's when Muhammad consummated his relationship with Aisha. The effects of this terrible asshole are still felt world wide today.

[Mystic]

About the heir are you referring to Ali? 

Ahlulbayt are central to understanding the Quran.

Message of Quran has two miracle aspects.

It's wisdom.
The eloquence.

Eloquence without substance is meaningless. 

Wisdom needs manifestation. Talking about the family of Ibrahim with no relevance to this nation is meaningless.

Talking about offspring of Noah inheriting Prophethood, etc, emphasizing these things repeatedly, has no meaning if no relevance.

Talking about young age of Yayha when he is a Prophet or Jesus, has to have some of relevance or it's useless.

The designation in all that, the wisdom, it needed designation of the same boat that "by the name of God is it's sailing and anchoring".

Without Ali, the Quran makes no sense. You can talk about eloquence all you want, but when it has no argument, no substance, then it's just that...eloquence with no substance. Meaningless stories.

But Ali and Fatima and their chosen offspring, were the meaning, the designation, the focal point, it's what makes Suratal Fatiha make sense with respect to whole Quran. It's what makes all the emphasis on the chosen families of the past make sense. 

etc etc...

[The Grand Nudger]

Sure, if you have some definition for sense that includes the senseless, then that all makes it make "sense".

[brewer]

If it's all that you say it is I'd think it would know where I am and done something about it. Nothing yet.

Oh, no, cough, cough, arrrrrgh, my chest, can't breath, growing weaker.....weaker.......weaker.....arrrrrgh



Not!

Hey my friend to you be your way of belief and to me be mine

Agreed.

[Mystic]

Muhammad is by far the worst of the worlds major religious founders . He was a slaver, warlord, murderer and pedophile. His delusions were probably from having a case of temporal lobe epilepsy. You see a direct reflection of Muhammad in terrorist groups today. Muhammad enslaved people, so ISIS does. Saudi Arabia's age of consent is 9. Why? Well that's when Muhammad consummated his relationship with Aisha. The effects of this terrible asshole are still felt world wide today.

Yet if we were to read Quran as primary source that all others things are subject to scrutiny to, which I think is logical for a Muslim to do, the age of marriage is said to be the age of greatest strength and emphasizes also that this is when they have reached mental guidance in life.

Sure hadiths say that, but, if I read Quran says the opposite, what am I suppose to do with such hadiths as a believer in Quran?

[The Grand Nudger]

Same thing you do when the quran says something different then what you believe.  Make shit up, or ignore them.

[Sheed1980]

Hey my friend to you be your way of belief and to me be mine

Agreed.

[Catholic_Lady]

Sorry if this has been answered already. I have a question for my Muslim brothers. But what is the difference between the Quran and the Hadith? Which is more important? Is a Muslim supposed to follow both?

*Edited. Was watching TV when I wrote it the first time lol.