Islam and its History and Impact of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)

[Lemonvariable72]

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To all the people who commented regarding questions about the Quran and history etc i will not be addressing them here at the moment, we can open a separate topic and discuss them there or perhaps after i finish writing the complete set of history then i will address them

Okay back to our history lesson


Hopefully you can look at this subjectively and honestly as a person living in a very difficult time and seeing what that person was able to produce by his ideas and his vision , something that not one of us will be able to mimic even a tenth of, long after we are dead, Islam will continue , Quran will continue, his name will continue etc and despite not being with the people of today

The only problem is what you have heard is not entirely true, and you need to see what really happened and why he was such a successful and influential and superb unique individual

Again back to the beginnings

Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) dealt with one of the most difficult and arrogant and immoral evil people of his time and he even managed to completely change them , it might be hard to believe this but they were even worse then ISIS because even ISIS dont kill their own daughters just because they are born female

People need to realize that 1400 years ago, there was no internet, no mobile phones, there was no electricity, no hospitals, no knowledge of any kind of medicine or knowledge about something simple like the flu , no security, no government, no law, no certainty of any kind and for the Arabs,  life was even worse then the usual medieval European, there was no water either it was very scarce, there was no food it was very scarce , there was a period of life of the Prophet where he would go for up to a month without food just one date at a time every few days, and this would last for almost a year and sometimes even longer , what he ate was absolutely minimal to say the least, he lived in absolute poverty

Tomorrow for the Arab was a long way away , today for the arab was very dangerous , all kinds of things could kill you and perhaps many of them did not look forward to life in the harsh desert and lifestyle that they were brought up in but couldnt do anything about, during the day he was at risk , during the night eh was at risk, at any moment any can kill you to steal what little you have or what they thought you might have had , food was really scarce

People didnt have time or concerns with things like knowledge or what was going on contemporary in other parts of the world or things like science, all they knew was maybe within a 1 km radius of their surroundings and it was all to do with food , water and survival and war

People had SERIOUS problems , no certainty of any kind, once the sun went down all kinds of fears came over the people, fears of mythical stories , fears of night robbers(as you know the famous Aladdin and the 40 thieves story captures the reality of life as an Arab at night ) people grouped up in "tribes" and went to conquer each other for basics thing , and because of that there was no law, there was no governance, there was no knowledge to interest in knowledge or reading or writing or books

When your life is in danger every second, you dont have time or concerns to learn or know or create or organise anything, you cant get together with people and make a change especially when the people are stone cold killers who can easily kill their own daughters , they wont have a problem killing somebody they seen as a threat or competitor

This was the surrounding that Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) was in and this was something which to anyone else might have seemed next to impossible to change , especially from somebody who hated violence, who also was looked down upon for having a daughter(his daughter Fatimah(PBUH) was his first surviving child whom he of course kept and loved very deeply

they used to make fun of him for having a daughter saying that he was cursed, and on top of the fact that he didnt participate in battles even those concerning his own tribe, people looked at him as not a strong male capable of surviving their strong and highly demanding lifestyles

Furthermore he challenged the status quo, he demanded equality for the female and male, he demanded that all slaves be freed and that they are free men, he demanded that arab and non arab and blacks and whites are equal before God , he demanded that everyone stop worshipping the hundreds of gods  (which were made out of things like dates which were later eaten) and criticised this concept of Arabs eating their gods when they got hungry and desperate

He demanded the 360 god statues in teh Ka'ba be removed and everyone unites to worship one God , he told the aristocrats(which mainly made their money from selling these hundred of gods to these arabs who were afraid the harsh environment around them looking for any hope to save them hence falling for the aristocratic tricks and buying these false gods in turn making the aristocrats rich and themselves extremely poor) he demanded the rich help the poor, he was preaching against their traditions of killing the daughters and mistreating the female in general

but as you can imagine the macho Arab man, rejected all of his propositions and they ridiculed him alot, they didnt see him as  threat because he was everything they were not, he had a daughter child, he openly showed affection towards her which was something that shocked them that he was loving and caring while they were harsh and commanding to their children , they looked at him as an effeminate man

when he used to come, they looked down upon so much that they used to order their children to stone him and pelt him in order to humiliate him by having him beaten down by young children being a man himself

but of course despite that the general average arab rejected all of his ideas and his completely going against all their traditions and lifestyle changing and shaking the very foundations of everything they knew and took for granted his message did reach and fall upon the many ears of those who were greatly suffering in that environment

the poor, the slaves, the blacks, the females, all heard his message loud and clear and they loved the sound of his message, it related to them completely and resonated with them because they had never heard such talk before about the female being equal to the male, about the slave being free, about the arabs and non arabs and black equal before God

and his message was the first of all nations 1400 years ago, he was the first to call for equality for all men and women , something that was unheard of in general

unity of all men and women under one God , the rich not being better then the poor or the poor not being better then the rich, and that they are al equal, except in high morals was what distinguished them from one another , the one who was better was the one who treated the other better , that was the only ones who were considered better then the other according to him and his teachings

he emanated manners, again something the Arabs didnt know about, they would insult him and ridicule him and he would not insult back or ridicule back, he would return evil with love and compassion

when they would come to him cursing him and making fun of him, he would try his best to help them , he returned all evil with kindness (kill them with kindness) as the old saying goes

however that didnt stop the arab from plotting and planning against him, they obviously began to notice that he was getting the ears of the slaves and women and non arabs , he started to change their minds and they were starting to believe that they were not scrap but individuals with human rights, and they started to demand these rights

of course and they were met with death, torture, and great opposition, Muhammad(PBUH) also , he was threatened to be killed, he was attacked many times, he was humiliated many times, he was attacked and eventually they exiled him

but all of this did not stop him or his message, he stood in their faces without fear of death or fear of what they would do to him , he trusted in all that God promised him and told him through Gabriel(the angel) and he persisted against great threat and opposition, and truly it was a miracle that he survived as he did despite all the opposition that was against him

he was never viewed as a threat, he wasnt a strong brawny macho rude loud obnoxious guy like the usual arab, he was the silent soft spoken opposite to them who loved his daughter and respected all people male or female , slave or free man

at first they ridiculed him but then it turned into a very serious threat with many attempts on his life because his message was reaching the ears of all the oppressed and captivated by these ridiculous standards that were normal in their society, but God saved him every time as his mission was promised by God to be a success

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Until this i was willing to listen and have some respect for what you have to say, but this is above all else a discussion forum, and you had very respectful and well thought out critisms thrown against you. I want to see them addressed.

[WinterHold]

Many of the Prophet's companions were already from the wealthiest & strongest tribes in Mecca.
Moreover, the pre-Islamic Arab society was a living hell, and it's not Muslims who said that, but the historical sources & ancient Arab literature gave a very good description of how life was in that society.

All according to Mohammed's followers. Not according to facts.

Don't you think these wealthy traders had an agenda to get rid of some competition? In which world are you living? You think, these people were so much different than our contemporaries when it comes to greed and getting even more money by any means possible?

Well, you probably take shelter in the apologist narrative again. But let's stay on planet Earth for a while.

It's hard for me to see how the wealthiest traders in Mecca, would embrace Islam & destroy many sources of income forever.

Most of the companions were traders, being a part of the Prophet's movement  caused them to starve & some even died, when Muslims were ordered to leave Mecca to Madina, immigrants lost lots of their possessions including their homes.

I don't see that as a "master plan" for world domination.

[The Grand Nudger]

Sounds like an abject failure.

[abaris]

It's hard for me to see how the wealthiest traders in Mecca, would embrace Islam & destroy many sources of income forever.

Why is that so hard to see? Getting rid of the competition isn't exactly a novel idea. Taking over the competition's assets and territory is another thought.

[Sheed1980]

What is all that PBUH? My guess is Piss Bucket Under Horse.

I pitty ur sad since of humor and I guarantee ur mockery will harm u in the long run. But just to give you the info PBUH means Peace be upon him which we as Muslims wish upon all of God's prophets

[brewer]

What is all that PBUH? My guess is Piss Bucket Under Horse.

I pitty ur sad since of humor and I guarantee ur mockery will harm u in the long run. But just to give you the info PBUH means Peace be upon him which we as Muslims wish upon all of God's prophets

My mockery of a fantasy delusion will harm me? Bring it on. In fact pray for it. It's all fantasy. MTFBWY (may the force be with you).

[Sheed1980]

I pitty ur sad since of humor and I guarantee ur mockery will harm u in the long run. But just to give you the info PBUH means Peace be upon him which we as Muslims wish upon all of God's prophets

My mockery of a fantasy delusion will harm me? Bring it on. In fact pray for it. It's all fantasy. MTFBWY (may the force be with you).

just be careful what u pray for my friend. Allah hears and sees all and never forgets.

[brewer]

My mockery of a fantasy delusion will harm me? Bring it on. In fact pray for it. It's all fantasy. MTFBWY (may the force be with you).

just be careful what u pray for my friend. Allah hears and sees all and never forgets.

If it's all that you say it is I'd think it would know where I am and done something about it. Nothing yet.

Oh, no, cough, cough, arrrrrgh, my chest, can't breath, growing weaker.....weaker.......weaker.....arrrrrgh



Not!

[The Grand Nudger]

My mockery of a fantasy delusion will harm me? Bring it on. In fact pray for it. It's all fantasy. MTFBWY (may the force be with you).

just be careful what u pray for my friend. Allah hears and sees all and never forgets.

"My bigger, stronger friend is totally gonna fuck you up for disagreeing with me"

-Your friend is imaginary Sheed, and you're a bit of a douche. Maybe you shouldn't threaten people with someone else's dick, whadda you think?

[yukapuka]

Obviously people here are not accepting what i am writing, actually if you bring our attention towards books written by western historians, but proper unbiased books, such as the ones i quoted from, you will find what i am saying is truth and fact

Also unfortunately today there is a lot of propaganda against the prophet so they are spreading falsehood, but if you go back to a time before there was agendas and hate, you will find unbiased and unprejudiced books by western authors about the life in post Islam Arab and Muhammd(PBUH)

The most recent is actually the book from Michael Hart who wrote a book "100 Most Influential Men of all time" and he put Muhammad(PBUH) as number one, and he gives his reason

"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular levels...

Muhammad founded and promulgated one of the world's great religions, and became an immensely effective political leader. Today, thirteen centuries after his death, his influence is still powerful and pervasive... Like all religions, Islam exerts an enormous influence upon the lives of its followers. It is for this reason that the founders of the world's great religions all figure prominently in this book. Since there are roughly twice as many Christians as Moslems in the world, it may initially seem strange that Muhammad has been ranked higher than Jesus. There are two principal reasons for that decision. First, Muhammad played a far more important role in the development of Islam than Jesus did in the development of Christianity. Although Jesus was responsible for the main ethical and moral precepts of Christianity (insofar as these differed from Judaism), St. Paul was the main developer of Christian theology, its principal proselytizer, and the author of a large portion of the New Testament.

Muhammad, however, was responsible for both the theology of Islam and its main ethical and moral principles. In addition, he played the key role in proselytizing the new faith, and in establishing the religious practices of Islam. Moreover, he is the author of the Moslem holy scriptures, the Koran, a collection of certain of Muhammad's insights that he believed had been directly revealed to him by Allah. Most of these utterances were copied more or less faithfully during Muhammad's lifetime and were collected together in authoritative form not long after his death. The Koran therefore, closely represents Muhammad's ideas and teachings and to a considerable extent his exact words. No such detailed compilation of the teachings of Christ has survived. Since the Koran is at least as important to Moslems as the Bible is to Christians, the influence of Muhammed through the medium of the Koran has been enormous It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. On the purely religious level, then, it seems likely that Muhammad has been as influential in human history as Jesus.

Furthermore, Muhammad (unlike Jesus) was a secular as well as a religious leader. In fact, as the driving force behind the Arab conquests, he may well rank as the most influential political leader of all time... the Arab conquests of the seventh century have continued to play an important role in human history, down to the present day. It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history."

George Bernard Shaw wrote: "I have studied him - the wonderful ma- and in my opinion far from being an anti-christ , he must be called the saviour of humanity" "The genuine Islam Vol 1 No 81936

R Bosworth Smith wrote : "By a fortune absolutely unique in history, Muhammad is a threefold founder of a nation, of an empire, and of a religion" Muhammad and Muhammadanism(book)

Encyclopedia Britannica 1th edition "Muhammad was the most successful of all religious personalities"

Thomas Carlyle : "The great man's sincerity is of the kind he cannot speak of: nay, i suppose, he is conscious rather of insincerity; for what man can walk accurately by the law of truth for one day? no, the great man does not boast himself sincere, far from that; perhaps does not ask himself if he is so: i would rather say , his sincerity does not depend on himself : he cannot help being sincere!"

"A silent great soul, he was one of those who cannot but be in earnest, whom nature herself has appointed to be sincere. While others walk in formulas and hearsay, contended enough to dwell there, this man could not screen himself in formulas ; he was alone with his own soul and the reality of things...such sincerity, as we named it, has in veery truth something divine. The word of such a man is a voice direct from natures own heart. Men do and must listen to that as to nothing else....all else is wind in comparison" Heroes and Hero worship p.71

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There is another i want to bring your attention towards

a treaty that Muhammad(PBUH) made with the Christians which today can be found in a Museum , and this treaty will again show the true nature of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH)

called the "Ashtiname of Muhamamd"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashtiname_of_Muhammad

where he hand stamped a treaty which says that he offers protection to all Christians until the end of time and that not one of them is to be harmed or hurt or even taxed under his government