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The afterlife and the soul
#61
RE: The afterlife and the soul
(January 8, 2016 at 8:58 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(January 8, 2016 at 2:05 pm)Vincent Wrote: Allah is a false god and Jesus was a false prophet. 

I believe Osiris is the one true God. 

Prove me wrong.
Sure my friend. There are many proofs to use against u but I'll only use a couple. Osiris was supposedly KILLED by his brother Typhon. God Almighty(Allah)never has and never will be seized by death. Plus Osiris had an image that people could look at him. Allah does not have a physical image that can be seen by humans in this life.

Those aren't proofs. Those are just assertions without support. What can be asserted without support can be dismissed without support. I dismiss your 'proof'. Begone, foolish god botherer.
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#62
RE: The afterlife and the soul
(January 8, 2016 at 9:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(January 8, 2016 at 8:58 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: Sure my friend. There are many proofs to use against u but I'll only use a couple. Osiris was supposedly KILLED by his brother Typhon. God Almighty(Allah)never has and never will be seized by death. Plus Osiris had an image that people could look at him. Allah does not have a physical image that can be seen by humans in this life.

Those aren't proofs.  Those are just assertions without support.  What can be asserted without support can be dismissed without support.  I dismiss your 'proof'.  Begone, foolish god botherer.

Who is it that created us then? Created the universe and all beings therein?
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#63
RE: The afterlife and the soul
(January 8, 2016 at 2:05 pm)Vincent Wrote: Prove me wrong.

(January 8, 2016 at 9:48 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(January 8, 2016 at 9:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Those aren't proofs.  Those are just assertions without support.  What can be asserted without support can be dismissed without support.  I dismiss your 'proof'.  Begone, foolish god botherer.

So if Osiris is the as u say "One true god" what makes you say that and even better how can God die?

You do realize that you are the one who accepted his challenge to prove him wrong? You're just making assumptions about who and what god is. You're drawing these ideas from the thin air of your prior belief. They have no backing. They are nothing.

What makes you say that Osiris is not the one true god?
What makes you think a god cannot die?
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#64
RE: The afterlife and the soul
Sheed1980

All possible greatness needs a basis (to him belongs the greatness in the heavens and the earth-Quran)
The Ultimate Greatness is the only possible basis to all possible greatness.
Witness signs of his greatness in your soul, they are linked to something higher, in fact, linked to the highest.
Ultimate greatness by definition must be One and not divided. The reason being is that it contains all perfect attributes. And where one attribute refering to a different reality than another of it, they would be composed of non-complete versions of attributes (none-ultimate attributes). Hence it is One.
As it is one, no life can exist with it.
All life comes from it and is depend on it.
Our dependence can be witnessed.
That dependence and link to it is known as God's Name.
His Name contains all beautiful names and praise.
We praise him with what is connected to him.
Had any of what is connected to him not been eternal in one sense or linked to the eternal, they would be falsehood/arbitrary/delusions.
Everything is created by truth of God (link to the Highest/his name/his face).

"Don't let the doubters underestimate yourself...."- Quran.
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#65
RE: The afterlife and the soul
(January 8, 2016 at 8:58 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: Sure my friend. There are many proofs to use against u but I'll only use a couple. Osiris was supposedly KILLED by his brother Typhon. God Almighty(Allah)never has and never will be seized by death. 

Excuse me, but Osiris being killed by his brother was a myth invented by the ancient Egyptian people. Modern day Osiris worshippers discard that foolish and falsified ideology and understand that He is immortal, and cannot be killed. 

Quote:Plus Osiris had an image that people could look at him. Allah does not have a physical image that can be seen by humans in this life.

Ok, so your false god is an arrogant dick who thinks of humans as so pitiful and below him that we do not even deserve to have an image of him. He'd rather remain invisible (and therefore indistinguishable from being nonexistent) to everyone, even the humans who believe in him.

Osiris is a much kinder and just God. He would prefer Himself to be seen by those who love and follow him, for He believes us deserving of that right. 

All hail Osiris! The one God to rule them all!
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#66
RE: The afterlife and the soul
(January 8, 2016 at 9:48 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(January 8, 2016 at 9:35 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Those aren't proofs.  Those are just assertions without support.  What can be asserted without support can be dismissed without support.  I dismiss your 'proof'.  Begone, foolish god botherer.

Who is it that created us then? Created the universe and all beings therein?

Just because we don't have answer ourselves and so can't prove you wrong, that doesn't mean you are right. Also, your question is doubly loaded so as to presume the universe was created, and that an intelligence was responsible.

Try this phrase, it is very liberating: "I don't know".

There is no need to pretend to have all the answers.

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#67
RE: The afterlife and the soul
(January 8, 2016 at 8:58 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(January 8, 2016 at 2:05 pm)Vincent Wrote: Allah is a false god and Jesus was a false prophet. 

I believe Osiris is the one true God. 

Prove me wrong.
Sure my friend. There are many proofs to use against u but I'll only use a couple. Osiris was supposedly KILLED by his brother Typhon. God Almighty(Allah)never has and never will be seized by death. Plus Osiris had an image that people could look at him. Allah does not have a physical image that can be seen by humans in this life.

(January 8, 2016 at 11:17 am)drfuzzy Wrote: tl;dr
Allah doesn't exist.   Yahweh doesn't exist.  Neither does Jesus, Zeus, Mithra, Ahura-Mazda, Odin, Apollo, Osiris, Ra, Shiva, Rama, the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, or the Easter Bunny.
It will be proven my friend. I just hope for everyone's sake that they are believing before it's their time to die and leave this life. BUT I GUARANTEE it will definitely happen. When? That knowledge sits with Allah alone.

You sound like a Muslim version of all of the xtians who say "oh, but wait until after you're dead and MY GOD tells you that you were wrong and going to hell".  I'll take that chance.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#68
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...why does whatever created the universe need to be a 'who'?
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#69
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(January 9, 2016 at 1:40 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: ...why does whatever created the universe need to be a 'who'?

Because it's hard to pretend that a 'what' or an 'it' personally cares about us. Some men gaze into the abyss and see Mom and Dad.
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#70
RE: The afterlife and the soul
(January 9, 2016 at 12:02 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:
(January 8, 2016 at 8:58 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: Sure my friend. There are many proofs to use against u but I'll only use a couple. Osiris was supposedly KILLED by his brother Typhon. God Almighty(Allah)never has and never will be seized by death. Plus Osiris had an image that people could look at him. Allah does not have a physical image that can be seen by humans in this life.

It will be proven my friend. I just hope for everyone's sake that they are believing before it's their time to die and leave this life. BUT I GUARANTEE it will definitely happen. When? That knowledge sits with Allah alone.

You sound like a Muslim version of all of the xtians who say "oh, but wait until after you're dead and MY GOD tells you that you were wrong and going to hell".  I'll take that chance.
Well my friend to you be your way of belief and to me be mine
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