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Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs
#61
RE: Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs
(February 2, 2016 at 7:46 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:
(February 2, 2016 at 5:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Ger flip der flop der boing foygen.

Boru

Prietenul tau este google translate.

Hey! I took three semesters of German at Purdue. That was German 101, German 101, and German 101. They gave me points for trying and told me to go away.
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#62
RE: Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs
(January 31, 2016 at 11:34 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I wanted to share this press conference for people to watch, which in my opinion is the best information out there of extraterrestrials, and UFOs. It's all government and military workers talking about their involvement in the whole phenomena. Very high level people talking about the technology, continued government secrecy and cover-up, and basically retired people who want the people of earth to know what they know, and for the governments to declassify and make public the information.

Here's the website:  http://www.disclosureproject.org/

There are hundreds of hours of interviews to listen to.

Here's the press conference that came out in 2001, just before 9/11 which overshadowed it. Let me know what you think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEnO3nYnAbA
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#63
RE: Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs
(February 2, 2016 at 8:02 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:
(January 31, 2016 at 11:34 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I wanted to share this press conference for people to watch, which in my opinion is the best information out there of extraterrestrials, and UFOs. It's all government and military workers talking about their involvement in the whole phenomena. Very high level people talking about the technology, continued government secrecy and cover-up, and basically retired people who want the people of earth to know what they know, and for the governments to declassify and make public the information.

Here's the website:  http://www.disclosureproject.org/

There are hundreds of hours of interviews to listen to.

Here's the press conference that came out in 2001, just before 9/11 which overshadowed it. Let me know what you think:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEnO3nYnAbA

I thought I'd watch that, you know, just for a laugh.
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#64
RE: Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs
(February 2, 2016 at 7:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Bugger.  Scoob has quoted both Richard Nixon and Adolf Hilter.

Dunno about the rest of you lot, but I'm convinced.

I'm surprised that post didn't self-immolate.
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#65
RE: Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs
(February 2, 2016 at 7:30 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:
(February 2, 2016 at 12:06 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Hrm interesting question. I've been into UFOs for a long time. I think it is a arena that is currently overrun with quacks, but desperately needs some skeptical inquiry but honest inquiry because some of the reports are too credible to just chuck out. What interests me most is when pilots come out with these reports, especially those in the military and or with radio transcripts and radar data. Incidents like that are rare, but I know there are few, including one that is on Canadian government records on UFOs. However the disclosure project is still a little hard for me to swallow.

I agree, the disclosure project information presented is pretty far out there. I think what it really comes down to is people really want to believe their government is telling them the truth, and that with such a big government of people on both sides of the political spectrum, something would leak out, and the media would gobble it up immediately to get the big story to share with the public. That's what I used to think when I was younger, but the more you research the military at least, it's actually pretty easy to keep the media silent, because it would be going against national security. I don't want to reveal anything classified, even if I had that information. Disclosure project is interesting especially the press conference.

The general population would be the last to know, that's a garuntee. They always classify the encounters and bring in scientists to study them, but it never goes public. When it does it's from testimony, but people on this board are waiting for the government to say so. Even then the government could lie. One of big reasons would be to create a threat to the whole world, which would unite the people of the world in a common cause so we would no longer worry about our differences such as nations or religion.

Even ex head of the CIA George HW Bush a few months ago when asked about UFOs at a recent event for Jeb Bush running for president responded that "the American people can't handle the truth". It's not the only time hes responded to questions like that, normally he says he can't talk about classified information.

If you prefer not to be on the cutting edge and risk researching possible incorrect information or even misinformation, you can wait for the government which you trust so much to tell you what to believe. What's interesting is all the people in this video worked for the government at very high levels, but everyone says they are liars. Probably because they think the individual can lie, but the government as a collective wouldn't lie and couldn't get away with it, because we would find out. Problem is who would you find out from? More government whistleblowers who you think are liars?

I dont trust the government at all, I am just skeptical that they could cover something so big when they couldn't even keep something like mk ultra secret. The issue is that these people make big claims and the evidence they use to back it up uses a lot of assumptions. Take area 51 as example. We know some secretive shit is going on there do to the security and eye witness testimony of the aurora spy plane (which has cases of multiple eye witnesses) the medical documentation for odd maladies of employees. But then you have this huge leap to 'aliens'. So I ask you, what is more believable, aliens, or the government experimenting with secret weapons to get an edge?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#66
RE: Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs
The government couldn't even keep Bill Clinton's cum-stained dress out of the news. I don't think they're competent enough to hide aliens.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#67
RE: Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs
(February 5, 2016 at 12:41 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(February 2, 2016 at 7:30 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I agree, the disclosure project information presented is pretty far out there. I think what it really comes down to is people really want to believe their government is telling them the truth, and that with such a big government of people on both sides of the political spectrum, something would leak out, and the media would gobble it up immediately to get the big story to share with the public. That's what I used to think when I was younger, but the more you research the military at least, it's actually pretty easy to keep the media silent, because it would be going against national security. I don't want to reveal anything classified, even if I had that information. Disclosure project is interesting especially the press conference.

The general population would be the last to know, that's a garuntee. They always classify the encounters and bring in scientists to study them, but it never goes public. When it does it's from testimony, but people on this board are waiting for the government to say so. Even then the government could lie. One of big reasons would be to create a threat to the whole world, which would unite the people of the world in a common cause so we would no longer worry about our differences such as nations or religion.

Even ex head of the CIA George HW Bush a few months ago when asked about UFOs at a recent event for Jeb Bush running for president responded that "the American people can't handle the truth". It's not the only time hes responded to questions like that, normally he says he can't talk about classified information.

If you prefer not to be on the cutting edge and risk researching possible incorrect information or even misinformation, you can wait for the government which you trust so much to tell you what to believe. What's interesting is all the people in this video worked for the government at very high levels, but everyone says they are liars. Probably because they think the individual can lie, but the government as a collective wouldn't lie and couldn't get away with it, because we would find out. Problem is who would you find out from? More government whistleblowers who you think are liars?

I dont trust the government at all, I am just skeptical that they could cover something so big when they couldn't even keep something like mk ultra secret. The issue is that these people make big claims and the evidence they use to back it up uses a lot of assumptions. Take area 51 as example. We know some secretive shit is going on there do to the security and eye witness testimony of the aurora spy plane (which has cases of multiple eye witnesses) the medical documentation for odd maladies of employees. But then you have this huge leap to 'aliens'. So I ask you, what is more believable, aliens, or the government experimenting with secret weapons to get an edge?

For sure it's easier to believe it's all human, but the information available suggest it's something more advanced. Yes, things leak out, but they don't really enter the collective minds of the masses. The term conspiracy theory for example is a psychological slide so when people hear it they don't continue to investigate, they move on. It came from the CIA after the Kennedy assassination to get people to buy the version the government was selling.

There are so many instances of ufos coming in and shooting beams of light into missile silos making nuclear warheads non functional. Plus the people in this video at least are not truck drivers seeing things in the night when they are on the road. These are people in my opinion who are fairly credible to the point it's worth listening to what they are saying. People who worked in NASA, and saw pictures of buildings on the backside of the moon. People in the military with high security clearances and air traffic controllers that have recorded flying metallic objects moving at speeds and angles that airplane can't. 


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#68
RE: Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs
The world really seems to consist of America to you...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#69
RE: Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs
(February 6, 2016 at 4:17 am)Alex K Wrote: The world really seems to consist of America to you...

All countries have similar stories. Where do you live?

"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)
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#70
RE: Disclosure Project - Aliens UFOs
I'd really like to start this back up because I think the subject is so bizarre and beyond belief, but still can't get past the point that so many people in the US government are still coming forward talking about this subject saying the US government is lying. I trully think it's a subject worth looking into. I've seen a lot of other governments talk about it, but not as aware as the US government.

Steel curtain, I wonder what you think about it.

Since the original video has been scrubbed, I'll repost it. I hope people watch it, even though it's not something that is proven which I acknowledge. (fixed link because it keeps getting erased, start at 6 minutes)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5Mv0_RFEB8

This is part one of two of one of the witness videos (edit, had to recreate link because it's not allowed to be reposted)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=4+Hour+Witness+DVD+-+Part+1+of+2

Here's a more recent version of witness tesimony of government employees talking about it, which I haven't seen yet( ugh, same with the one below, but if you click on watch in youtube, you can watch it)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKQnsKzSJ1Y

My question, is why do we ignore all of these people that have worked in the government and military who say they want the public to know the truth about what they have seen or been involved in?
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