Still struggling.

[Socratic Meth Head]

"I have a can of coke!"
"Prove it."
"Okay, (shows coke) here."
"Oh, you do..."
Theist
"I have a can of coke!"
"Prove it."
"You can't disprove it, my coke can works in mysterious ways!"

Prove your words by a credible source. Not the same conspiracy theory website. I don't want to hear what you alone think, I want to hear what the evidence says.

What is your idea of a credible source, and why is your idea of a credible source credible in your mind?

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That's not the first time you've denied really believing what you have purported here as if you were all-in with it.

I guess I could explain it this way. I've researched luciferianism and understand to an extent what they believe, but that doesn't mean I accept what they believe to be truth. I know they exist and believe in Lucifer, as I do, but I don't believe Lucifer is god like they do. I understand Lucifer to be the adversary of God which is the etymology of Satan. Too an extent the fact that they exist, proves God exists since that's an extension of the resistance to the universal. And what I mean by that is why would there be a group of very powerful people in many levels of our government fighting against God by taking the side of lucifer if God didn't exist? For me the dark side is interesting because it proves the existence of the opposition. And if there is opposition, what are they opposed to?

Seriously scooby, just leave the thread. You are not helping your image by posting stuff that no one cares about/believes in.

[scoobysnack]

What is your idea of a credible source, and why is your idea of a credible source credible in your mind?

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I guess I could explain it this way. I've researched luciferianism and understand to an extent what they believe, but that doesn't mean I accept what they believe to be truth. I know they exist and believe in Lucifer, as I do, but I don't believe Lucifer is god like they do. I understand Lucifer to be the adversary of God which is the etymology of Satan. Too an extent the fact that they exist, proves God exists since that's an extension of the resistance to the universal. And what I mean by that is why would there be a group of very powerful people in many levels of our government fighting against God by taking the side of lucifer if God didn't exist? For me the dark side is interesting because it proves the existence of the opposition. And if there is opposition, what are they opposed to?

Seriously scooby, just leave the thread. You are not helping your image by posting stuff that no one cares about/believes in.

No, I think I'll stay. Still listening to an interesting video posted by Jehanne. What I'm interested is what you believe in.

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What I said were not my beliefs were about satanism and the occult, not souls. All those at the higher levels know we are souls.

Watch and/or listen to this:

http://intelligencesquaredus.org/debates...-not-final

Thanks Jehanne, this is the most interesting things I've found on this forum. I'm half way through it now, and will have to finish it tomorrow, but I wanted to thank you for providing the link. It's a great debate from both sides and the only thing I've come across on this forum to make me question anything yet, so kudos to you! For anyone else, I'd recommend this video.

What I still find interesting is why everyone wouldn't everyone report some experience if some do and it's just DMT. All speakers do a good job of explaining their point of view. Kind of like the how the placebo effect only effects a certain percentage, like NDEs only affect a certain percentage. Why if we are all basically biologically the same would it happen to one, but not the other? The last speaker in the first section from Harvard makes some good points.

I'll finish it tomorrow.

[God of Mr. Hanky]

Seriously scooby, just leave the thread. You are not helping your image by posting stuff that no one cares about/believes in.

No, I think I'll stay. Still listening to an interesting video posted by Jehanne. What I'm interested is what you believe in.

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I do believe you posted yourself out of any reasonable expectation of a respectful answer the very first time you polluted this thread with your shit, and you have certainly overstayed your welcome.

[scoobysnack]

No, I think I'll stay. Still listening to an interesting video posted by Jehanne. What I'm interested is what you believe in.

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I do believe you posted yourself out of any reasonable expectation of a respectful answer the very first time you polluted this thread with your shit, and you have certainly overstayed your welcome.

Hahaha... Realize I hide certain information that shouldn't be talked about until the time comes... At this point I'm interested in what the original poster has to talk about. I'm more interested in how the original thread poster has adopted atheism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cDPCPzHw4Q

[God of Mr. Hanky]

Hahaha... Realize I hide certain information that shouldn't be talked about until the time comes... At this point I'm interested in what the original poster has to talk about. I'm more interested in how the original thread poster has adopted atheism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cDPCPzHw4Q

...and the OP has already told you to fuck off - at least twice, I do believe! Now it's time for you to leave the poor kid alone!

You'd better watch your step, Troll!

[scoobysnack]

Hahaha... Realize I hide certain information that shouldn't be talked about until the time comes... At this point I'm interested in what the original poster has to talk about. I'm more interested in how the original thread poster has adopted atheism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cDPCPzHw4Q

...and the OP has already told you to fuck off - at least twice, I do believe! Now it's time for you to leave the poor kid alone!

You'd better watch your step, Troll!

I don't believe in trolls, and I'm not going to pay you the troll toll. Everytime you talk about it, it reminds me of the scene from Always sunny in Philadelphia
:

hahahahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ8G2s--1zA

[Socratic Meth Head]

...and the OP has already told you to fuck off - at least twice, I do believe! Now it's time for you to leave the poor kid alone!

You'd better watch your step, Troll!

I don't believe in trolls, and I'm not going to pay you the troll toll. Everytime you talk about it, it reminds me of the scene from Always sunny in Philadelphia
:

hahahahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ8G2s--1zA

Okay, ill say this one more time. Please fuck off and start your own thread for your NDE bullshit. Im sick of hearing of it and you have done no work in convincing me . I can say that no one sees you as a reliable source of info. If you want to talk about NDE, START AN NDE THREAD. Youve already de-railed the thread now please fuck off because this thread is what i come to for OCD anxiety relief currently.

Just fuck off man!

[scoobysnack]

I don't believe in trolls, and I'm not going to pay you the troll toll. Everytime you talk about it, it reminds me of the scene from Always sunny in Philadelphia
:

hahahahaha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ8G2s--1zA

Okay, ill say this one more time. Please fuck off and start your own thread for your NDE bullshit. Im sick of hearing of it and you have done no work in convincing me . I can say that no one sees you as a reliable source of info. If you want to talk about NDE, START AN NDE THREAD. Youve already de-railed the thread now please fuck off because this thread is what i come to for OCD anxiety relief currently.

Just fuck off man!

I've already started a thread of an atheist who died and went to hell, and then was saved, here:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-41204.html

I will however respect you and not post for quite a while. Like I said I'm more interested in what you believe. Just be careful of what you say online...

[Socratic Meth Head]

Okay, ill say this one more time. Please fuck off and start your own thread for your NDE bullshit. Im sick of hearing of it and you have done no work in convincing me . I can say that no one sees you as a reliable source of info. If you want to talk about NDE, START AN NDE THREAD. Youve already de-railed the thread now please fuck off because this thread is what i come to for OCD anxiety relief currently.

Just fuck off man!

I've already started a thread of an atheist who died and went to hell, and then was saved, here:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-41204.html

I will however respect you and not post for quite a while. Like I said I'm more interested in what you believe. Just be careful of what you say online...

Fuck off means fuck off man!
You're seriously trying to intimidate me with hell? Wow, some christian you are.


Been reading The God Delusion. Liking it so far.

[robvalue]

Regarding the unlikely prayer loot, consider that some 70% of the world is religious. There will be billions of prayers a day, for extremely unlikely events. Statistically, some of them are bound to happen. It just so happened to be you this time.

If it really was God answering the prayer (it wasn't) then that points to a rather cruel and callous God ignoring the pleas of starving people all over the world, in favour of an electronic bonus. Personally I don't worship anything, real or imaginary, I find the concept ridiculous. I wouldn't worship any kind of God even if it was shown to be real, and I certainly wouldn't worship a fucking monster who would act in this way, or that bears any resemblance to the Abrahamic gods.

The whole idea of prayer is so messed up, because if you're asking God to change his plan, you don't have confidence his plan is already perfect. I know you weren't being serious in your prayer, it's just a general point.