Still struggling.

[God of Mr. Hanky]

Funny how you should compare going clean from the drug of religion so that one can actually deal with reality to a "forbidden fruit" such as cocaine. It's the dope pusher marketing a product with the promise that it will make you sober!

I'm not an addict. Just saying the forbidden fruit in general is wanting to go after what you can't have, and in the end it may not be what you really wanted.

Didn't say you are - you are the dope pusher marketing a sobriety aid. You are as low and twisted a lying shithead as any can possibly be - you sell the addictive, morally, mentally, and socially destructive drug of religious ideas at the hands of ignorant parents, led by people who profit off their misery.

[scoobysnack]

I'm not an addict. Just saying the forbidden fruit in general is wanting to go after what you can't have, and in the end it may not be what you really wanted.

Didn't say you are - you are the dope pusher marketing a sobriety aid. You are as low and twisted a lying shithead as any can possibly be!

haha, well that's what you think. I'm not here to argue on his thread. He doesn't need you to make up his mind for him, unless that's what you have in mind.

[God of Mr. Hanky]

Didn't say you are - you are the dope pusher marketing a sobriety aid. You are as low and twisted a lying shithead as any can possibly be!

haha, well that's what you think. I'm not here to argue on his thread. He doesn't need you to make up his mind for him, unless that's what you have in mind.

I'm only here because you are determined to make up his mind for him, particularly your way. He's asked you, and you alone to leave, and here you still are - not even Jesus would be that bad an asshole, as his followers describe him. When you are asked to stop your badgering, as you have already been asked by the OP on numerous occasions, then you need to disappear from the thread. When he asks me to go away, I'll do the same.

[Socratic Meth Head]

haha, well that's what you think. I'm not here to argue on his thread. He doesn't need you to make up his mind for him, unless that's what you have in mind.

I'm only here because you are determined to make up his mind for him, particularly your way. He's asked you, and you alone to leave, and here you still are - not even Jesus would be that bad an asshole, as his followers describe him. When you are asked to stop your badgering, as you have already been asked by the OP on numerous occasions, then you need to disappear from the thread. When he asks me to go away, I'll do the same.

Scooby, I have made up my mind months before I came here, it seems you are the only one making up my mind for me, thanks God of Mr. Hanky.

2 books came in today, Greatest Show on Earth and The Selfish Gene

[maestroanth]

One thing that might help is to stop identifying yourself with the OCD label. Having this label I think on a sub psychological level gives you a sense of "allowance" to continue to be OCD.

For example, I used to be an alcoholic. However, once I changed my drinking habits I simply dropped that alchy label to define myself which A.A. is usually against. The difference is, if I slip up and have drink or two, or Hell, even get wasted on a night, I just don't tell myself "well, I fell off the wagon", and keep drinking on the next night. Rather, I tell myself, "I'm no alcoholic so I better stop now or else I will be one again." To contrast, my A.A. buddy who keeps that alcoholic label just keep on binging when he slips up because "well, he's an alcoholic". Labels are dumb man's way to simplify complicated habits and usually gives unsatisfactory results.

[Socratic Meth Head]

One thing that might help is to stop identifying yourself with the OCD label. Having this label I think on a sub psychological level gives you a sense of "allowance" to continue to be OCD.

For example, I used to be an alcoholic. However, once I changed my drinking habits I simply dropped that alchy label to define myself which A.A. is usually against. The difference is, if I slip up and have drink or two, or Hell, even get wasted on a night, I just don't tell myself "well, I fell off the wagon", and keep drinking on the next night. Rather, I tell myself, "I'm no alcoholic so I better stop now or else I will be one again." To contrast, my A.A.  buddy who keeps that alcoholic label just keep on binging when he slips up  because "well, he's an alcoholic". Labels are dumb man's way to simplify complicated habits and usually gives unsatisfactory results.

I've tried this before with HOCD and Harm OCD. If I were to say "I don't have OCD" then the thoughts say "Well, if you don't have OCD then what causes the thoughts?" and I get anxiety. HOCD and Harm OCD have mostly gone away, but this doubt about religion is here. I get anxiety about becoming a Christians or a Muslim.

[maestroanth]

One thing that might help is to stop identifying yourself with the OCD label. Having this label I think on a sub psychological level gives you a sense of "allowance" to continue to be OCD.

For example, I used to be an alcoholic. However, once I changed my drinking habits I simply dropped that alchy label to define myself which A.A. is usually against. The difference is, if I slip up and have drink or two, or Hell, even get wasted on a night, I just don't tell myself "well, I fell off the wagon", and keep drinking on the next night. Rather, I tell myself, "I'm no alcoholic so I better stop now or else I will be one again." To contrast, my A.A.  buddy who keeps that alcoholic label just keep on binging when he slips up  because "well, he's an alcoholic". Labels are dumb man's way to simplify complicated habits and usually gives unsatisfactory results.

I've tried this before with HOCD and Harm OCD. If I were to say "I don't have OCD" then the thoughts say "Well, if you don't have OCD then what causes the thoughts?" and I get anxiety. HOCD and Harm OCD have mostly gone away, but this doubt about religion is here. I get anxiety about becoming a Christians or a Muslim.

Well, I mean everyone has ocd thoughts to an extent. Especially in this modern society where an annoying pretentious level of trivial details seems to be admired. I've had to substitute alcohol with MANY other things and some arguably not even healthy things but still less consequential than booze. So what can you substitute OCD with that'll will make you modestly happier?

[Socratic Meth Head]

I've tried this before with HOCD and Harm OCD. If I were to say "I don't have OCD" then the thoughts say "Well, if you don't have OCD then what causes the thoughts?" and I get anxiety. HOCD and Harm OCD have mostly gone away, but this doubt about religion is here. I get anxiety about becoming a Christians or a Muslim.

Well, I mean everyone has ocd thoughts to an extent. Especially in this modern society where an annoying pretentious level of trivial details seems to be admired. I've had to substitute alcohol with MANY other things and some arguably not even healthy things but still less consequential than booze.  So what can you substitute OCD with that'll will make you modestly happier?

Yes, everyone has displeasent thoughts to an extent, the difference is how my quality of life is diminished. I've yet to try substituting OCD with anything else, because it seems a little placebo. If I had to substitute OCD with anything, it would be something like GAD. Slightly better, but still not good.

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I was in the shower and I really got to thinking about how I'm an atheist and I got this feeling like God was displeased, I couldn't shake it, I have yet to take my medicine lately but it isn't working. I am still an atheist and the feeling has subsided but I still get that tug every now and again... I'm back to obsessing, an otherwise fine day has been tarnished.

[popsthebuilder]

Well, I mean everyone has ocd thoughts to an extent. Especially in this modern society where an annoying pretentious level of trivial details seems to be admired. I've had to substitute alcohol with MANY other things and some arguably not even healthy things but still less consequential than booze.  So what can you substitute OCD with that'll will make you modestly happier?

Yes, everyone has displeasent thoughts to an extent, the difference is how my quality of life is diminished. I've yet to try substituting OCD with anything else, because it seems a little placebo. If I had to substitute OCD with anything, it would be something like GAD. Slightly better, but still not good.

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I was in the shower and I really got to thinking about how I'm an atheist and I got this feeling like God was displeased, I couldn't shake it, I have yet to take my medicine lately but it isn't working. I am still an atheist and the feeling has subsided but I still get that tug every now and again... I'm back to obsessing, an otherwise fine day has been tarnished.

It's disturbing how many take drugs in order to not have to face reality. It's even more sad hen society makes it seem like the right thing to do despite what you know for yourself.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.

[robvalue]

You're a shameless opportunist peddling an imaginary product pops. This is a thread where someone is asking for support. You disgust me.

GDog: Those thoughts must be horrible. I can totally relate, as I still have thoughts even now that I'm "useless and can't do anything". Clearly that is not the case, but I was indoctrinated to believe it as a child. As a 38 year old man, it still affects me. But I've managed to scale down the frequency of the thoughts and their effects on me, by concentrating on evidence rather than emotions.