Still struggling.

[God of Mr. Hanky]

I would also advise against calling the police; Scooby is right about some of the likely ramifications.

That said, it might be possible for us to track down and get in touch with his therapist via the resources available here, online. A simple call to the therapist, asking him to go visit the kid, would likely result in him being able to convey the problem. Then, if there's something that needs to be done about it, a professional (therapists are what are called "Mandated Reporters", meaning they must report crimes or abuse if they encounter it, and they are trained to recognize those situations and how to handle them) can do what is best for him.

I was thrown out of my parents' house at 17 because I ceased to be a Christian (wasn't even an atheist, yet!), and it was well over a decade before I developed cordial relations with them again. Avoid that, if you can, friend. Had I caught this thread sooner, I'd have advised you to "stay in the closet" about your beliefs until you leave the home.

Who's going to call the therapist? I do sincerely hope this can be resolved without a 911 call, but we don't know more than the information which GD is providing, and to see him tell it, the situation looks complicated. I just hope his half-brother, or some other adult who he's in contact with and isn't afraid of his mother will help him.

We've already been through this, so please don't let that dogshit-covered asshole Scooby establish the ad-hominem against those of us who have considered these ramifications responsibly! I can't tell GD what he should do, but it looks like he's in a bit of a situation being isolated from anybody like a school nurse who would help him, while unable to contact his doctor directly for help. It doesn't look like he has a very good home to lose when his own mother cares more about him paying lip service to her delusions than to his physical and mental health (he said she's cutting him off from treatment as leverage, and he's growing increasingly unstable). What I fear most for him is that a 911 call may be his last option, which would surely complicate his home life further, and even this may not get him the continuance of medicine which is needed if nobody who has the ball is competent to get him seen by a competent physician. We don't know if he is old enough to be thrown out on the street, and if not then he could end up in foster care (given that the supposedly responsible authorities actually do their jobs). It's too late for him to stay in the closet, and it's just morally wrong to advise any young person to compromise his honesty for security. I'm not saying I'd blame him for doing so, but the situation is just so complicated and wrong I can't see any advice being right either way.

[Socratic Meth Head]

I would also advise against calling the police; Scooby is right about some of the likely ramifications.

That said, it might be possible for us to track down and get in touch with his therapist via the resources available here, online. A simple call to the therapist, asking him to go visit the kid, would likely result in him being able to convey the problem. Then, if there's something that needs to be done about it, a professional (therapists are what are called "Mandated Reporters", meaning they must report crimes or abuse if they encounter it, and they are trained to recognize those situations and how to handle them) can do what is best for him.

I was thrown out of my parents' house at 17 because I ceased to be a Christian (wasn't even an atheist, yet!), and it was well over a decade before I developed cordial relations with them again. Avoid that, if you can, friend. Had I caught this thread sooner, I'd have advised you to "stay in the closet" about your beliefs until you leave the home.

They already know full and well that I'm an atheist.

As for calling 911. I don't think its that serious. Yes I am struggling, but I have been keeping it together, I am going to ask her one more time to schedule it and if not I will try and call the junction area to get it set up and get my brother to take me.

I don't want to ruin the family, I want to go independant from the family, yes, but I don't want to ruin it. My best bet is to do what I can to get the mental treatment I need and just keep what I can together.

[God of Mr. Hanky]

If you're under 18 and she's denying you continuation of your treatment, call 911.

I dont know, i dont like calling 911 about anything, ive been told not to unless its a true emergency.

I dont know

It's there as a matter of last resort, should you be in a seriously unstable condition without accessible help, but you would do better if you can hold out for anybody who would help you without that. Are there any adults who you can trust regarding your medical situation? Is your half-brother an adult, and would he help you against your mother's wishes? Does your father even know what she is doing? Are there other adults who aren't stupid enough to think that using required medical treatment as leverage against a child to make him do anything, much less pay lip service to stupid religious ideas isn't a crime? If you show up on a neighbor's doorstep and are visibly unstable as a result of what your mother, whose legal custody you are presumed to be in is doing to you, then this is a crime to be reported, but it's probably best to find somebody who will get you to a doctor as soon as possible instead of call the police.

[Redbeard The Pink]

I have never seen more delusional posts in one forum than this. You are actually convincing this kid to call 911 on his parents for this? Clearly nothing but a pile of collectivist social justice warriors who don't know what they hell they are talking about, or actually trying to destroy him. Listen General Dog, you are going to bring the authorities to your home, and will likely as a minor be taken from your home and put into the Child Protective Services where you will be exposed to things you don't want to experience, and in the end fuck up your family. You are obviously too young and sheltered to know what's about to happen to you, but I've been around the block for many years, and trust me the last thing you want to do is this BS. You need to talk to your parents seriously, about what you are going through. If you identify as an atheist, that's up to you.

That is not fucking true. My ex-wife fought her parents for years over getting treatments for severe depression and hallucinations, and when she finally got through to somebody she was not snatched by CPS. Take off your tinfoil hat, dipshit.

[Redbeard The Pink]

By the way, GD, I don't know how old you are or what kind of school you're attending (if any), but if you can bring yourself to it, it might help to confide about this situation to a guidance counselor or similar staff member at your school. They're legally required to at least make an effort toward getting you some actual help if your parents are refusing for some reason, and it wouldn't be as extreme a step as calling 911. That's what my ex finally did after her parents refused to have her treated because they thought she was making it up, and that situation turned out more or less ok.

[God of Mr. Hanky]

It was lucky for her that she wasn't also home-schooled. We don't know if this kid has anybody who he can rely on, but he's resourceful, so he'll probably find a way.

[robvalue]

Can you tell us anything about the therapist that could help locate them?

[Jehanne]

She wont give me the number, if i try and get it directly, i would have to call up the area (its part of some junction area) and get trasfered

If you're under 18 and she's denying you continuation of your treatment, call 911.

Do NOT call 911; in the United States, this is a crime, unless it is a true emergency.  If you are being denied "critical care," then you need to speak with a "mandatory reporter," that is, someone can call Child Protective Services on your behalf.

[Jehanne]

They already know full and well that I'm an atheist.

As for calling 911. I don't think its that serious. Yes I am struggling, but I have been keeping it together, I am going to ask her one more time to schedule it and if not I will try and call the junction area to get it set up and get my brother to take me.

I don't want to ruin the family, I want to go independant from the family, yes, but I don't want to ruin it. My best bet is to do what I can to get the mental treatment I need and just keep what I can together.

How old are you?

[robvalue]

Maybe not 911, but contacting the local police or protective services isn't out of the question in my opinion if no other options are available. Getting someone else to do this sounds like a good idea.

Talking to the therapist, or some other adult in a position of responsibility would probably be better if it's possible.