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My fundy mom made this comment on Facebook
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RE: My fundy mom made this comment on Facebook
(February 27, 2016 at 12:10 pm)Old Baby Wrote:
(February 27, 2016 at 10:30 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Do you really think the president is so powerful (my bolded)?  I mean yeah, he can dial up some nuclear rain.  But can he even appoint a judge let alone set any policy whatsoever without the approval of the lunatic asylum we call the congress?  I think "separation of powers" is code for "status quo protected against any possible meddling".  Our constitution is an anachronism.

He doesn't have unlimited power, but he can still dish out the hurt with illegal wars (Bush in Iraq) with the most powerful military in the world without having to go to congress for approval.  Then there's the executive order that King Obama and King Bush have been so fond of.  I'm grateful that we have the congressional lunatic asylum, whether they happen to be blue or red, and I actually like the fact that it's very difficult to change the status quo.  That means it's a much harder fight and longer process to change things, but once they are changed they're not likely to be flipped on and off based upon the whims and biases of whatever regime has the majority.

Oh, FFS... "so fond of"? Stop watching Faux News.

[Image: mehta-datalab-executiveorders1.png?w=575]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/every...one-chart/
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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RE: My fundy mom made this comment on Facebook
(February 27, 2016 at 1:42 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
(February 27, 2016 at 12:10 pm)Old Baby Wrote: He doesn't have unlimited power, but he can still dish out the hurt with illegal wars (Bush in Iraq) with the most powerful military in the world without having to go to congress for approval.  Then there's the executive order that King Obama and King Bush have been so fond of.  I'm grateful that we have the congressional lunatic asylum, whether they happen to be blue or red, and I actually like the fact that it's very difficult to change the status quo.  That means it's a much harder fight and longer process to change things, but once they are changed they're not likely to be flipped on and off based upon the whims and biases of whatever regime has the majority.

Oh, FFS... "so fond of"? Stop watching Faux News.

[Image: mehta-datalab-executiveorders1.png?w=575]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/every...one-chart/

Calm down.  I don't watch Fox news.  Sorry to have picked on your guy, but your chart doesn't really change anything.  I was addressing whether or not the President really had a lot of power, and to my estimation he does because of the good ol' executive order, among other things.  I guess it's my use of the word "king" that has upset you.  I used it toward Obama and Bush because theirs are the presidencies I've paid the most attention to, since I was a teenager when Clinton was president.  I'll just put "King" in front of all guys' names who have used it the same amount of times or more to be fair.  That's not to say that every use of the executive order is unjustified, but I haven't always cared for the way that Obama or Bush used this power.
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RE: My fundy mom made this comment on Facebook
(February 27, 2016 at 3:47 pm)Old Baby Wrote: Calm down.  I don't watch Fox news.  Sorry to have picked on your guy, but your chart doesn't really change anything.  I was addressing whether or not the President really had a lot of power, and to my estimation he does because of the good ol' executive order, among other things.  I guess it's my use of the word "king" that has upset you.  I used it toward Obama and Bush because theirs are the presidencies I've paid the most attention to, since I was a teenager when Clinton was president.  I'll just put "King" in front of all guys' names who have used it the same amount of times or more to be fair.  That's not to say that every use of the executive order is unjustified, but I haven't always cared for the way that Obama or Bush used this power.

My "guy"? What the fuck, dude?

He's the President. I didn't vote for him (I couldn't). I'm just sick to death of all my Faux-News-misinformed relatives and neighbors harping on about how he uses executive orders for "everything", when in fact he has been one of the most restrained presidents in doing so.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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RE: My fundy mom made this comment on Facebook
(February 27, 2016 at 6:19 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
(February 27, 2016 at 3:47 pm)Old Baby Wrote: Calm down.  I don't watch Fox news.  Sorry to have picked on your guy, but your chart doesn't really change anything.  I was addressing whether or not the President really had a lot of power, and to my estimation he does because of the good ol' executive order, among other things.  I guess it's my use of the word "king" that has upset you.  I used it toward Obama and Bush because theirs are the presidencies I've paid the most attention to, since I was a teenager when Clinton was president.  I'll just put "King" in front of all guys' names who have used it the same amount of times or more to be fair.  That's not to say that every use of the executive order is unjustified, but I haven't always cared for the way that Obama or Bush used this power.

My "guy"? What the fuck, dude?

He's the President. I didn't vote for him (I couldn't). I'm just sick to death of all my Faux-News-misinformed relatives and neighbors harping on about how he uses executive orders for "everything", when in fact he has been one of the most restrained presidents in doing so.

That's fine.  You made the mistaken assumption that I'm just like your relatives, and I made the mistaken assumption that he's "your guy".
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RE: My fundy mom made this comment on Facebook
Yep, using executive orders to set pay rates and develop lines of succession in federal agencies makes the President a dictator.
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RE: My fundy mom made this comment on Facebook
I deactivated my account on Facebook. Everyone should do the same.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: My fundy mom made this comment on Facebook
(February 26, 2016 at 12:08 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Yikes, sorry Rocket Man!
I can imagine my mother would post something similar.  Except she would probably be praying for Cruz or Rubio to win (whoever talks more about the Bible is the one she would vote for) and saying that if they don't, it means the rapture will happen very very soon . . . she'll get taken up to be with her Lord, and then all the stupid evil non-believers are gonna BURN . . .        (glory hallelujah!).

Trump is the biggest, greatest, most luxurious fan of the Bible. Haven't you heard?

Donald Trump Wrote:“The Art of the Deal is second to the bible....The bible blows [other books] away. There’s nothing like it, the bible.”

What a rare show of humility on Trump's part as well. Smile
You're not an ugly person; you're a beautiful monkey.

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RE: My fundy mom made this comment on Facebook
(February 26, 2016 at 11:10 am)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I know she has been opposed to Hillary Clinton since Bill was in office, so I'm not surprised by that remark. And she actually posted a surprisingly insightful critique, from a Christian POV, of Trump... but I'm trying to figure out how Sanders gets lumped into that mix. Here's what she commented:


RocketsMom Wrote:D*** P*** R*** If Trump, Clinton, or Sanders wins the Presidency, it will prove to me that God has taken His favor from our country and given us the leader He thinks we deserve.

I'd ask her why she thinks that Almighty God is "giving us a leader" in a process that is decided by humans who are supposed to have free will. It's probably just a figure of speech, but it's weird watching Christians jump from one side to the other regarding free will and God's will.
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