God: The Great Tempter

[Wyrd of Gawd]

So the God character is a crazy schizo.  Religion is nothing more than crazy people worshiping another crazy person.

Are you married? do you have kids? If so, does being a son/husband/father make you a crazy schizo?

Believing in ancient ethnocentric Middle Eastern Jewish and Arabian religious fairy tales makes one a crazy schizo.

[Godscreated]

God doesn't succumb to our temptations.  In reality God kills us all.  We all die; and that's according to his will.  Dying in itself isn't evil, but it does come as a result of our sins.  It is evil, though, for us to disobey God's will and to commit murder.  Of course, if we truly loved our neighbors as Jesus told us to do, we wouldn't commit murder.

Are you sure about that?  People can tempt God whenever they want to.  You really need to read your favorite ethnocentric Middle Eastern religious fairy tale.

Deuteronomy 6:16 (NKJV) = “You shall not tempt the Lord your God as you tempted Him in Massah."

Psalm 78:18 (KJV) = "And they tempted God in their heart by asking meat for their lust."

Psalm 78:41 (KJV) = "Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel."

Psalm 78:56 (KJV) = "Yet they tempted and provoked the most high God, and kept not his testimonies:"

Psalm 106:14 (KJV) =  "But lusted exceedingly in the wilderness, and tempted God in the desert."

Malachi 3:15 (KJV) =  "And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered."

Sirach 18:23 (RSV) = "Before making a vow, prepare yourself; and do not be like a man who tempts the Lord."

Acts 15:10 (KJV) = "Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?"

The passage says that God can not be tempted with evil (meaning He want fall to temptation). These men directly sinned against God by trying to tempt Him, God allowed the temptation so as not to mess with free will of man in these instances. The only true free will we have is to choose between God and hell, obedience or disobedience, eternal life or eternal hell, Jesus or ourselves.

GC

[Silver]

The passage says that God can not be tempted with evil (meaning He want fall to temptation). These men directly sinned against God by trying to tempt Him, God allowed the temptation so as not to mess with free will of man in these instances. The only true free will we have is to choose between God and hell, obedience or disobedience, eternal life or eternal hell, Jesus or ourselves.

GC

Oh, goddamn, you fucking retarded theists will create any argument in your favor over reason. It is fucking sickening.

[Angrboda]

So the God character is a crazy schizo.  Religion is nothing more than crazy people worshiping another crazy person.

Are you married? do you have kids? If so, does being a son/husband/father make you a crazy schizo?

Are you suggesting that the three, the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, are just roles that God assumes, rather than distinct personalities / personhoods, as in traditional trinity doctrine?

[Wyrd of Gawd]

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Are you sure about that?  People can tempt God whenever they want to.  You really need to read your favorite ethnocentric Middle Eastern religious fairy tale.

Deuteronomy 6:16 (NKJV) = “You shall not tempt the Lord your God as you tempted Him in Massah."

Psalm 78:18 (KJV) = "And they tempted God in their heart by asking meat for their lust."

Psalm 78:41 (KJV) = "Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel."

Psalm 78:56 (KJV) = "Yet they tempted and provoked the most high God, and kept not his testimonies:"

Psalm 106:14 (KJV) =  "But lusted exceedingly in the wilderness, and tempted God in the desert."

Malachi 3:15 (KJV) =  "And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered."

Sirach 18:23 (RSV) = "Before making a vow, prepare yourself; and do not be like a man who tempts the Lord."

Acts 15:10 (KJV) = "Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?"

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The passage says that God can not be tempted with evil (meaning He want fall to temptation). These men directly sinned against God by trying to tempt Him, God allowed the temptation so as not to mess with free will of man in these instances. The only true free will we have is to choose between God and hell, obedience or disobedience, eternal life or eternal hell, Jesus or ourselves.

GC

In the Old Testament the God character never referred to himself as having multiple personalities.  He stuck with being a murderous lunatic.  

In the New Testament the Jesus character claimed to be just like the God character.  He was a lunatic as well.  He never did anything godly.  He never created anything.  He did do some magic tricks but they weren't up to the ones that Moses did.  He never said that he was God, only that he was as crazy as God.  If he was still wiggling on the cross the fairy tale might be believable.

[Huggy Bear]

Are you married? do you have kids? If so, does being a son/husband/father make you a crazy schizo?

Are you suggesting that the three, the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, are just roles that God assumes, rather than distinct personalities / personhoods, as in traditional trinity doctrine?

Yes.

[robvalue]

He's the father of... himself, the son of... himself, and he's a ghost, meaning he's dead. Interesting.

I prefer the life force trinity in Zelda. Makes much more sense.

[Huggy Bear]

Actually it's pretty simple.

[abaris]

Are you suggesting that the three, the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, are just roles that God assumes, rather than distinct personalities / personhoods, as in traditional trinity doctrine?

Yes.

So you agree on Jesus' supposed sacrifice being meaningless, since it was just a role, god was playing. And god can't die by definition.

Nice to know.

[robvalue]

Just like I say, the whole Jesus fiasco was theater for god the drama queen, instead of just changing his mind like a sensible person and forgiving.

If that was the only way he could achieve the goal, he is not all powerful, and has some very strange arbitrary restrictions. They always seem to crop up, and change on the circumstance.