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Discounting God in two words.
#31
RE: Discounting God in two words.
(April 2, 2016 at 1:50 pm)athrock Wrote:
(April 2, 2016 at 3:12 am)robvalue Wrote: I'll see your two words and raise you dismissing God entirely out of hand with one word:

"So?"

That fails. 

If God really exists, then "So?" is anything but the correct response.

Monumental "if" in that sentence.
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#32
RE: Discounting God in two words.
I'm wondering why that isn't the correct response, and how it is a distinction has been made between a correct and an incorrect response?  It would be mine.  I've already heard the stories....I still don't care.  God popping down from wherever won't change the fact that I don't give a shit.
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#33
RE: Discounting God in two words.
(April 2, 2016 at 2:28 pm)athrock Wrote:
(April 2, 2016 at 2:21 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: It's more than simply assuming a god created existence. You also assume that this god cares in the slightest what we think or do.

I do. But first things first. If God really exists, then the next thing to do is to learn all we can about Him.

Scientists discover new things all the time. Then they study the hell out of them.

This should be right up the average atheist's alley.

The problem is that evidence alleging the existence of god has value only if you make those assumptions beforehand. The bias precedes the evidence, and it can't be trusted.
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#34
RE: Discounting God in two words.
Discounting god in one word:

Athrock.
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#35
RE: Discounting God in two words.
(April 2, 2016 at 2:56 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Obviously not clearly enough, then. I'm using my brain and evaluating the world around me and see nothing that suggests a god. If he really wants me to know, maybe he should speak a little louder.

Oh, yes...the problem is with God's volume and not your willingness to listen.

Lalala
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#36
RE: Discounting God in two words.
(April 2, 2016 at 5:07 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Discounting god in one word:

Athrock.

If you wish to discuss anything of substance, Cecelia, please let me know.

Thanks.
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#37
RE: Discounting God in two words.
(April 2, 2016 at 5:10 pm)athrock Wrote:
(April 2, 2016 at 2:56 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Obviously not clearly enough, then. I'm using my brain and evaluating the world around me and see nothing that suggests a god. If he really wants me to know, maybe he should speak a little louder.

Oh, yes...the problem is with God's volume and not your willingness to listen.

Lalala

You know I used to be a christian, right? A Catholic in fact. Its not like I've stuck my fingers in my ears, I just realized I was talking to myself all that time.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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#38
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#39
RE: Discounting God in two words.
(April 2, 2016 at 5:32 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(April 2, 2016 at 5:10 pm)athrock Wrote: Oh, yes...the problem is with God's volume and not your willingness to listen.

Lalala

You know I used to be a christian, right?  A Catholic in fact.  Its not like I've stuck my fingers in my ears, I just realized I was talking to myself all that time.

No, actually...I did not know (or recall) that.

Why did you decide to leave the Catholic Church?
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#40
RE: Discounting God in two words.
Because I realized that all the reasons I had for believing were fallacious and unfounded, and that anything I attributed to a 'god' in the past were either my own personal thoughts and beliefs or simply chance events. And I didn't just "decide" to stop believing, I realized I simply couldn't believe, I was no longer convinced.

The fact that the Catholic church has so much about it that I now consider horridly immoral and harmful is beside the point, but looking back on it I don't know how I ever could believe that stuff, except that of course it was pushed onto me from a very young age.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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