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Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church
#11
RE: Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church
(April 17, 2011 at 7:02 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote:
(April 17, 2011 at 6:21 pm)Godschild Wrote: As a christian I thank you for your donation and as a christian I'll ask you to read the book of Job and find for yourself where such distruction comes from.
Well, thats cool. I will donate my money, as usual, annonymously. Whatever they do with it is their concern. as far as the book of Job is concerned, to be honest it is probably one of my most favorite books in the KJV. And when I say "most favorite" I mean "sucks the least". I consider it the divine comedy of the KJV. In the book of Job (which I have read several times) is where I finally come to grips that leaving Christianity was a must, and that Jehovah is an egotistical prick who will bet YOUR lively hood, and the lives of your children, to appease his ego when taunted by the devil. I can point at the book of Job and HONESTLY proclaim that I am much more moral than Jehovah. The answer to this destruction does not come from the book of Job.

The answer comes from modern meteorologists

Furthermore, since I believe the story of Job to be a fabrication, it would seem to me that the officers of the church could use the story to justify the random suffering of any one of their many parishioners - thus dissuade any possible doubt that a person in real misery would inevitably feel about a God who doesn't do anything to help. Basically, you're right on Rev.
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#12
RE: Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church
Quote:I will be donating money, not worthless prayers.


Helping is a great idea. An amoral atheist showing charity and compassion will REALLY confuse thinking ones and piss off the majority.

Money,so they can rebuild their church? Nah, my help would be practical. These are neighbours? I think I would give someone a place to stay, and help with the cleanup.


Quote:as a christian I'll ask you to read the book of Job and find for yourself where such distruction comes from.

Amazing,that fool STILL doesn't get it does he? IE that this is an ATHEIST forum..

PS It's 'destruction'.
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#13
RE: Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church
(April 17, 2011 at 6:43 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Does tactical nuking a tornado disrupt it enough to stop it? My thoughts would suggest yet, but does anyone know if this has been tried?

I swear... my 90-ish year old grand mother in the throes of dementia suggested the same insane shit... WTF universe...

I award you the You Fail Physics Forever award.


(April 17, 2011 at 7:31 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Has it been tired? : Yes.
Does it work? : No.

Turns out, dropping a nuke into it does fuck all. Just leaves a load of radiation around. When considerable heat and cold temperatures mix, they react by causing a funnel effect (tornado). A nuke produces a huge and powerful wave with large amounts of thermal energy, but does nothing to slow or stop a tornado. All you can do is get the fuck out of it's way, and hope it doesn't hit your home, or harm anyone of course.

Correct Ace. This is because a) nukes scatter material, including radioactive materials, and a hurricane, even somehow severely "damaged", scatters materials like a mother fucker and b) not enough energy.

The energy required to disrupt a hurricane theoretically? Not good. A hurricane amasses energy
NOAA Wrote:... at a rate of 5 to 20x1013 watts and converts less than 10% of the heat into the mechanical energy of the wind. The heat release is equivalent to a 10-megaton nuclear bomb exploding every 20 minutes. According to the 1993 World Almanac, the entire human race used energy at a rate of 1013 watts in 1990, a rate less than 20% of the power of a hurricane.

If we think about mechanical energy, the energy at humanity's disposal is closer to the storm's, but the task of focusing even half of the energy on a spot in the middle of a remote ocean would still be formidable. Brute force interference with hurricanes doesn't seem promising.

Finally, why any explosive will not work:

NOAA Wrote:In addition, an explosive, even a nuclear explosive, produces a shock wave, or pulse of high pressure, that propagates away from the site of the explosion somewhat faster than the speed of sound. Such an event doesn't raise the barometric pressure after the shock has passed because barometric pressure in the atmosphere reflects the weight of the air above the ground. For normal atmospheric pressure, there are about ten metric tons (1000 kilograms per ton) of air bearing down on each square meter of surface. In the strongest hurricanes there are nine. To change a Category 5 hurricane into a Category 2 hurricane you would have to add about a half ton of air for each square meter inside the eye, or a total of a bit more than half a billion (500,000,000) tons for a 20 km radius eye. It's difficult to envision a practical way of moving that much air around.

Attacking weak tropical waves or depressions before they have a chance to grow into hurricanes isn't promising either. About 80 of these disturbances form every year in the Atlantic basin, but only about 5 become hurricanes in a typical year. There is no way to tell in advance which ones will develop. If the energy released in a tropical disturbance were only 10% of that released in a hurricane, it's still a lot of power, so that the hurricane police would need to dim the whole world's lights many times a year.

REF: http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5c.html
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#14
RE: Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church
Syna Wrote:I swear... my 90-ish year old grand mother in the throes of dementia suggested the same insane shit... WTF universe...

I award you the You Fail Physics Forever award.

You're a little late, I got it just yesterday from a boyfriend.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#15
RE: Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church
(April 17, 2011 at 10:14 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote:



I will be donating money, not worthless prayers.

So sorry to hear of the death toll Jerry and glad you and yours are safe.

And YES...practical help is more helpful than stupid praying.!Angel Cloud
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#16
RE: Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church
(April 17, 2011 at 6:43 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Does tactical nuking a tornado disrupt it enough to stop it? My thoughts would suggest yet, but does anyone know if this has been tried?

Heh, stormchasers will now come equipped with a M-29 Davy Crockett.

Quote:Both recoilless guns proved to have poor accuracy in testing, so the shell's greatest effect would have been its extreme radiation hazard. Even at a low yield setting, the M-388 would produce an almost instantly lethal radiation dosage (in excess of 10,000 rem) within 500 feet (150 m), and a probably fatal dose (around 600 rem) within a quarter mile (400 m).

Oops. Maybe not!
"How is it that a lame man does not annoy us while a lame mind does? Because a lame man recognizes that we are walking straight, while a lame mind says that it is we who are limping." - Pascal
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#17
RE: Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church
(April 19, 2011 at 5:18 pm)Jaysyn Wrote:
(April 17, 2011 at 6:43 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: Does tactical nuking a tornado disrupt it enough to stop it? My thoughts would suggest yet, but does anyone know if this has been tried?

Heh, stormchasers will now come equipped with a M-29 Davy Crockett.

Quote:Both recoilless guns proved to have poor accuracy in testing, so the shell's greatest effect would have been its extreme radiation hazard. Even at a low yield setting, the M-388 would produce an almost instantly lethal radiation dosage (in excess of 10,000 rem) within 500 feet (150 m), and a probably fatal dose (around 600 rem) within a quarter mile (400 m).

Oops. Maybe not!

I gotta tell you - I don't think anyone here knows where the hell you guys are taking this thread with this bizarre nuclear thing. Can't we just get back to bashing Jesus and call it good. In the words of Ron Burgundy "this is just dumb"
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RE: Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church
(April 17, 2011 at 10:14 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: http://hosted2.ap.org/COGRA/d30f3f32e9d8...1a62fe19e1

At least 4 killed in NC storms; death toll at 21

Quote:Hymnals still rested on the pews at the nearby Boone's Chapel Baptist Church, even though the walls and roof had blown away. Tammie Silas joined other church members, cleaning up the debris. She came upon two Hollon family photos that were pulled from debris scattered over a quarter-mile

Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church - This tornado literally touched down blocks away from me, but me and my family were not hurt. I cant say that for the others. Quite sad really, and to top it off, there are hundreds upon hundreds of people begging me for my prayers to them..do they not realize their god just destroyed one of their churches? What will it take before they see the reality of the situation...sad...so very sad, and it is compounded by sophomoric superstitious blah blah.

I will be donating money, not worthless prayers.

It's funny that christians asks an atheist to pray for them - do they know you're an atheist? :))
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#19
RE: Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church
Hey everybody. First of all i would like to thank you rev. j for showing compassion and kindness to those people that suffered loss due to the tornato. It is my opinion that prayer will help but donations certainly help as well. If anybody as human beings, show kindness to our fellow man if he be atheist or theist it matters not, then kindness will be shown to us. some say it comes in the form of blessings, some say its karma and some refer to it as the laws of the universe.

Now about the part where it was stated that the theists will probably offer some ridiculous explanation such as.. God has a plan and we will rebuild for the glory of God. It seems as if you have an understanding about how we see things. To be honest had you not said that I probably would have. It may seem ridiculous to you but it is an explaination. It isnt a rule we have to like everything our God does. We just have to accept it is the best thing in the long run and sometimes that takes some time. It is written, all things work together for good for those that love god. or you could refer to it is the reasons we believe it happend.

And an added note on that.. God did not destroy his church. A tornado destroyed a building. The "church" is not the church. The believers are the church. And any beleivers that were "killed" as a result of the tornado.. Well as silly as it may sound to some on here, theyre not dead. Their spirit is simply no longer here on earth with the rest of us. Death is not the end in other words. Peace.
Islam has killed millions in the last decade, lets focus all attention on Christianity!
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#20
RE: Jesus avoids the atheist family and destroys his own church
Quote:It is my opinion that prayer will help

How?
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