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The real religion?
July 12, 2016 at 5:15 pm
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We have loads of different theistic religions in the world right now. And every one of those claims to be the "real religion". They have it right, and everyone else has it wrong. They're worshipping the real god(s), in the correct way.
What would we expect to see from this? Let's pretend that one of these current religions is the real one.
Wouldn't it be absurdly obvious which one this is? Wouldn't those following the correct religion have some sort of noticable advantage? If God is doing anything at all in return for the worship it is receiving, wouldn't this be clear to all?
What I see is a bunch of people all claiming to have this amazing being on their side, yet none of them are any better off than any others because of it. I can only conclude that either none of them have it right, or God's blessings are so insignificant that I don't even notice them.
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RE: The real religion?
July 12, 2016 at 5:21 pm
(July 12, 2016 at 5:15 pm)robvalue Wrote: We have loads of different theistic religions in the world right now. And every one of those claims to be the "real religion". They have it right, and everyone else has it wrong. They're worshipping the real god(s), in the correct way.
What would we expect to see from this? Let's pretend that one of these current religions is the real one.
Wouldn't it be absurdly obvious which one this is? Wouldn't those following the correct religion have some sort of noticable advantage? If God is doing anything at all in return for the worship it is receiving, wouldn't this be clear to all?
What I see is a bunch of people all claiming to have this amazing being on their side, yet none of them are any better off than any others because of it. I can only conclude that either none of them have it right, or God's blessings are so insignificant that I don't even notice them.
I would say it would follow that the one with the highest adult conversion rate would be the most compelling.
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RE: The real religion?
July 12, 2016 at 5:23 pm
So it's a numbers game.
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RE: The real religion?
July 12, 2016 at 5:34 pm
Compelling but not necessarily right. Could a high conversion rate be due to satanic promises? That whole end of days hoodoo voodoo.
If it matters that much (and listening to theists it does) why has god not made an appearance (post jesus, when a majority of the schisms sprouted), or sent an undeniable sign saying which one is right. That must be to much for an all powerful one.
I'll go with the snake handlers. But they need to start using a shit load more snakes.
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RE: The real religion?
July 12, 2016 at 5:51 pm
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(July 12, 2016 at 5:21 pm)SteveII Wrote: (July 12, 2016 at 5:15 pm)robvalue Wrote: We have loads of different theistic religions in the world right now. And every one of those claims to be the "real religion". They have it right, and everyone else has it wrong. They're worshipping the real god(s), in the correct way.
What would we expect to see from this? Let's pretend that one of these current religions is the real one.
Wouldn't it be absurdly obvious which one this is? Wouldn't those following the correct religion have some sort of noticable advantage? If God is doing anything at all in return for the worship it is receiving, wouldn't this be clear to all?
What I see is a bunch of people all claiming to have this amazing being on their side, yet none of them are any better off than any others because of it. I can only conclude that either none of them have it right, or God's blessings are so insignificant that I don't even notice them.
I would say it would follow that the one with the highest adult conversion rate would be the most compelling.
So which was the true religion before Christianity went mainstream?
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RE: The real religion?
July 12, 2016 at 6:11 pm
Adult conversion rate?
So god's gift to the correct religion is... giving people the power to persuade others to join it? That's it?
And when another religion becomes more popular, the previous one was... what? Wrong all along? One God dies and another is born?
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RE: The real religion?
July 12, 2016 at 6:34 pm
(July 12, 2016 at 5:51 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: (July 12, 2016 at 5:21 pm)SteveII Wrote: I would say it would follow that the one with the highest adult conversion rate would be the most compelling.
So which was the true religion before Christianity went mainstream?
If Christianity is true, that would make the Jewish religion true as well. Regarding religion BC, was there a religion in which the core contained proselytizing? I am not sure there was. It seemed it was more like "our gods are stronger than your gods...".
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RE: The real religion?
July 12, 2016 at 6:37 pm
(July 12, 2016 at 6:11 pm)robvalue Wrote: Adult conversion rate?
So god's gift to the correct religion is... giving people the power to persuade others to join it? That's it?
And when another religion becomes more popular, the previous one was... what? Wrong all along? One God dies and another is born?
You would have to examine why Christianity is more compelling than the rest. I articulated my thoughts on this in a thread not too long ago.
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RE: The real religion?
July 12, 2016 at 6:42 pm
well... islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, sihkism, norse, greek and summatrine religions are all 100% parallel in the person of God, the moral values, the historical compatibility and the philosophy...
so what are you saying Chainsaw. LOL
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RE: The real religion?
July 12, 2016 at 6:51 pm
Compelling? Christianity is repulsive.
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