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What if christianity never existed ?
#31
RE: What if christianity never existed ?
(August 29, 2016 at 5:27 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Not to say that one belief is superior to the other, but Christianity has a separate history to Islam.

Yes, it has. And I'm sure at some point you will actually open a book to learn what the historical differences are. Who knows? It might surprise you.
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#32
RE: What if christianity never existed ?
(August 29, 2016 at 5:27 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Countries which have a history of being heavily Christian don't seem to be held back much in terms of science, separation of church and state, equality and things like this.
That's -exactly- the history that heavily christian countries had..until the christians decided to go all game of thrones on each other and thusly lost the ability to keep the thumb firmly pressed under the screws.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#33
RE: What if christianity never existed ?
(August 29, 2016 at 5:35 pm)abaris Wrote:
(August 29, 2016 at 5:27 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Not to say that one belief is superior to the other, but Christianity has a separate history to Islam.

Yes, it has. And I'm sure at some point you will actually open a book to learn what the historical differences are. Who knows? It might surprise you.

DERP DERP DERP.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

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#34
RE: What if christianity never existed ?
(August 29, 2016 at 5:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(August 29, 2016 at 5:27 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Countries which have a history of being heavily Christian don't seem to be held back much in terms of science, separation of church and state, equality and things like this.
That's -exactly- the history that heavily christian countries had..until the christians decided to go all game of thrones on each other and thusly lost the ability to keep the thumb firmly pressed under the screws.

I think it's more complex than that.
it isn't as if there's no game of thrones style game playing in Islam. Islam has been fragmented from day one.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#35
RE: What if christianity never existed ?
(August 29, 2016 at 5:38 pm)paulpablo Wrote: DERP DERP DERP.

Got anything to say? Maybe elaborate on the historical differences between christianity and Islam according to the wisdom of paulpablo?
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#36
RE: What if christianity never existed ?
(August 29, 2016 at 5:44 pm)abaris Wrote:
(August 29, 2016 at 5:38 pm)paulpablo Wrote: DERP DERP DERP.

Got anything to say? Maybe elaborate on the historical differences between christianity and Islam according to the wisdom of paulpablo?

No I was just saying that whatever the historical differences are, the countries with a Christian background are now some of the most progressive and scientifically advanced and the Islamic ones aren't.

I don't claim to know what the many reasons might be.

I was saying DERP DERP DERP in response to your post which was just you blurting out pointless bitter sarcasm.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#37
RE: What if christianity never existed ?
Sorry, but whevever I read one of your posts, giving the appearance of being in the know to just wiggle out at the earliest convenience, sarcasm is my natural reaction.
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#38
RE: What if christianity never existed ?
(August 29, 2016 at 5:44 pm)paulpablo Wrote:
(August 29, 2016 at 5:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That's -exactly- the history that heavily christian countries had..until the christians decided to go all game of thrones on each other and thusly lost the ability to keep the thumb firmly pressed under the screws.

I think it's more complex than that.
Oh, elaborate?

Quote:it isn't as if there's no game of thrones style game playing in Islam. Islam has been fragmented from day one.

Who said there wasn't...who said it wasn't...why is this relevant? "Herp derp islam sucked/sucks too". No shit.......?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#39
RE: What if christianity never existed ?
(August 29, 2016 at 5:54 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(August 29, 2016 at 5:44 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I think it's more complex than that.
Oh, elaborate?

Quote:it isn't as if there's no game of thrones style game playing in Islam. Islam has been fragmented from day one.

Who said there wasn't...who said it wasn't...why is this relevant?  "Herp derp islam sucked/sucks too".  No shit.......?

You were saying that the History of Christianity was holding back scientific achievement until these game of thrones type events happened killing enough of them off leaving not enough of them to hold the thumb screws.


It seems like an illogical evaluation of what happened.
Reason 1) It isn't unique to Christianity to have internal wars with different sects within the religion. Christianity is no different from Islam in terms of it being a fact that both religions are fractured.  Yet game of thrones style internal fighting has never stopped Islam from having a firm grip of theological power over certain countries.  At least relative to Christianity.

Reason 2) It seems over simplified anyway to say the Christians were preventing scientific advancement until they killed each other off to the point where there were no longer enough of them to hold power.

There's always been a fairly high population of Christians in the world so surely saying there wasn't enough of them to hold power after they were at battle with each other would be incorrect.

This might be some historical event I'm unaware of, but I've never heard of this point in history when there weren't enough Christians to oppress other people anymore because they were too busy fighting each other.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#40
RE: What if christianity never existed ?
(August 29, 2016 at 5:52 pm)abaris Wrote: Sorry, but whevever I read one of your posts, giving the appearance of being in the know to just wiggle out at the earliest convenience, sarcasm is my natural reaction.

By me pretending to be in the know and then wiggling out you mean....

You say sarcastic stuff to me making it look as if I claimed I said things which I didn't, then I say "But Abaris, I didn't say that at any point"

Then you say "Oh look at slimy Paulpablo wiggling out of it again."


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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