Going to be brutally honest - BLM edition

[Chad32]

Black on black crime is a separate issue. And one that could be better solved if we had a properly functioning police force in problem areas. Which we don't, as evidenced by the multiple "fucking cops" threads. I feel that the sooner we reign in the corrupt police forces, the sooner overall crime will drop.

Besides, if you want to divert the topic to black on black crime, how exactly do you intend to solve the problem? Certainly not with our dysfunctional police force.

[paulpablo]

Yeah... and 84% of whites are killed by other whites.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-codd...71878.html

According to the US Department of Justice statistics, 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites. In 2011, there were more cases of whites killing whites than there were of blacks killing blacks.

Most people are killed by people they know, not strangers.

When whites are gunned down by the cops because they have a broken tail light then you can talk to me about how BLM should say "all lives matter."  Their point, since I suspect you missed it, is that blacks are gunned down like dogs by the cops.

You know, the fact is we expect the police to be better than common street hoodlums.  There are no standards for street hoodlums.  It seems the standards for cops are shockingly low as well.

I don't think it's that percentage that's really the issue.
It's the actual number of murders committed in relation to population size.

[The Grand Nudger]

Is there something you'd point to as an instigating factor in that, or should we simply assume the quite but implied notion of savage races...as we've been doing for centuries? Are we considering a demographic of victims who do predictable things when placed and then held in an impossible position, or a rowdy mob that needs to be hemmed in on all sides by viscous state sponsored cattle-minders?

[paulpablo]

Is there something you'd point to as an instigating factor in that, or should we simply assume the quite but implied notion of savage races...as we've been doing for centuries? Are we considering a demographic of victims who do predictable things when placed and then held in an impossible position, or a rowdy mob that needs to be hemmed in on all sides by viscous state sponsored cattle-minders?

You're going to assume I'm talking about savage races.
Whenever the liberal mind hears any kind of statistic about crime and minorities the answer is always that the person providing the statistics is racist.

Same thing as when I told you about racism I've encountered from Pakistanis, that was just me being racist and telling racially charged anecdotes.

So the answer to you will be that I'm definitely calling black peoples savages, it's my thinly disguised vail of hatred, anyway I'm wasting my time typing I could be spending this time going out oppressing minorities.

[The Grand Nudger]

You're going to assume I'm talking about savage races.
Whenever the liberal mind hears any kind of statistic about crime and minorities the answer is always that the person providing the statistics is racist.

Jesus pablo, I'm not calling you racist, I am, however, trying to help you realize that without any clarification the only way to take that is a subtle implication of what could not but -be-described as racist. 

Same thing as when I told you about racism I've encountered from Pakistanis, that was just me being racist and telling racially charged anecdotes.

So the answer to you will be that I'm definitely calling black peoples savages, it's my thinly disguised vail of hatred, anyway I'm wasting my time typing I could be spending this time going out oppressing minorities.

I asked, you could always say "no, I don't think that the statistic means than black people are a savage race.....there's an instigating factor - which, imo is x."  Because if there isn't...or you can;t identify one..whether you like being called a racist or not..you have espoused a racist point of view.  It is only explicable by reference to the demographic, the demographic being black. Not that we've historically limited ourselves to black people in making such remarks. We used to point to the stats of irish crime, and thus the savage irish race. Rinse and repeat with every impoverished and oppressed group.

That you immediately resort to a "liberal mind" defense is just ridiculous (am I a liberal, ever think that info might be useful?), and is how racists, here, defend their racism. Does that mean that you're a racist..no...but you sure as shit talk and act like one...so if you aren't...maybe work on that? At this point, your one of the usual suspects, and if it were me...and I knew I wasn't a racist...I'd start to wonder why that was, rather than lash out at others with some kneejerk bullshit for having stuck my own foot in my own mouth.

[paulpablo]

You're saying my post, which was purely a suggestion of which statistics are notable when it comes to comparing black to white crime rates, are a quiet implication of savage races.

It's the usual liberal tactic of silencing people, talk about this statistic and you're not just talking about a statistic, you're saying black people are inherently savages. Quietly saying it, which means you're not saying it but I want to silence you so I'll accuse you of saying it.

[Jesster]

You're saying my post, which was purely a suggestion of which statistics are notable when it comes to comparing black to white crime rates, are a quiet implication of savage races.

It's the usual liberal tactic of silencing people, talk about this statistic and you're not just talking about a statistic, you're saying black people are inherently savages. Quietly saying it, which means you're not saying it but I want to silence you so I'll accuse you of saying it.

I'm not going to get on anyone's side here, but I think he just meant to ask what your position on it was. He wasn't making an exact statement about it.

Calm down

[The Grand Nudger]

You're saying my post, which was purely a suggestion of which statistics are notable when it comes to comparing black to white crime rates, are a quiet implication of savage races.

It's the usual liberal tactic of silencing people, talk about this statistic and you're not just talking about a statistic, you're saying black people are inherently savages. Quietly saying it, which means you're not saying it but I want to silence you so I'll accuse you of saying it.

Because it is, and I'm sorry if you weren't aware of it's history of use in the states...but them's the breaks.

-Why- is that statistic notable?  You keep using the word liberal.....but it's not an amulet that will deflect criticism, you realize? No ones trying to silence you, you are refusing to answer a question asked -of- you, lol.

[paulpablo]

You're saying my post, which was purely a suggestion of which statistics are notable when it comes to comparing black to white crime rates, are a quiet implication of savage races.

It's the usual liberal tactic of silencing people, talk about this statistic and you're not just talking about a statistic, you're saying black people are inherently savages. Quietly saying it, which means you're not saying it but I want to silence you so I'll accuse you of saying it.

I'm not going to get on anyone's side here, but I think he just meant to ask what your position on it was. He wasn't making an exact statement about it.

Calm down

He was just asking should people assume I'm talking about the savage race when I give a statistic.
The short calm answer is no.

[Edwardo Piet]

"Black lives matter" does NOT mean "Only Black lives matter" and this is what some people seem to fail to understand.