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What do you believe in that hasnt been proven to exist?
#91
RE: What do you believe in that hasnt been proven to exist?
"If you can give any other explanation" is a textbook argument from ignorance and a shifting of the burden of proof. I'm not the one trying to present a case; I'm just consideringyours. Present it something I can assess and I will assess it.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
#92
RE: What do you believe in that hasnt been proven to exist?
(October 31, 2016 at 2:52 pm)Stimbo Wrote: "If you can give any other explanation" is a textbook argument from ignorance and a shifting of the burden of proof. I'm not the one trying to present a case; I'm just consideringyours. Present it something I can assess and I will assess it.

then F**KING ASSESS IT. stop dodging.

this is a debate. if you want me to sit here writing until you believe me then we are wasting our time.

i presented my argument for controlled demolition.

so if you have no argument then we are done here.

this isnt a lecture.

if you want to make an official stance for both of us, i suggest im for Controlled demolition, and im assuming your for Planes. or we can do "muslims vs US gov"

you prove planes, ill disprove planes.

ill prove controlled demo, you disprove controlled demo.

reasonable? or would you like to make your own terms?
"Satan, who is the god of this world" 2 Corinthians 4:4 hath blinded the minds of them which believe not
#93
RE: What do you believe in that hasnt been proven to exist?
(October 31, 2016 at 2:58 pm)goombah111 Wrote: i presented my argument for controlled demolition.

No you didn't, you gave a pdf paper regarding molten steel and said you believe it was controlled demolition.

If that's your case, then there's nothing to assess. The one thing needs to substantiate the other. I could just as easily give a screengrab from Independence Day and say it was aliens.

Connect the dots. Make me believe what you believe.

(October 31, 2016 at 2:58 pm)goombah111 Wrote: so if you have no argument then we are done here.

I don't have a dog in this race. I'm not trying to prove anything, so of course I don't have an argument. I'm listening to yours

(October 31, 2016 at 2:58 pm)goombah111 Wrote: if you want to make an official stance for both of us, i suggest im for Controlled demolition, and im assuming your for Planes.

you prove planes, ill disprove planes.

ill prove controlled demo, you disprove controlled demo.

Once again, I'm not making a stance, official or otherwise. We have the situation as presented - the official version, if you like - and you are proposing something other than that. Make me see it.

Still, if you want me to prove planes: (image tucked away out of sensitivity)




Looks like a plane to me.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
#94
RE: What do you believe in that hasnt been proven to exist?
Yeah, that's always been what's puzzled me about the 9/11 conspiracies. How did these people NOT see planes fly into those buildings? I mean, that's sort of like watching a wildebeest stampede crush a village and then trying to blame all those flat huts on anything BUT wildebeest.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
#95
RE: What do you believe in that hasnt been proven to exist?
(October 31, 2016 at 3:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, that's always been what's puzzled me about the 9/11 conspiracies.  How did these people NOT see planes fly into those buildings?  I mean, that's sort of like watching a wildebeest stampede crush a village and then trying to blame all those flat huts on anything BUT wildebeest.

Boru

thats not at all the argument of most theorists.
"Satan, who is the god of this world" 2 Corinthians 4:4 hath blinded the minds of them which believe not
#96
RE: What do you believe in that hasnt been proven to exist?
I believe that believers are batshit crazy.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
#97
RE: What do you believe in that hasnt been proven to exist?
(October 31, 2016 at 3:25 pm)goombah111 Wrote:
(October 31, 2016 at 3:20 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Yeah, that's always been what's puzzled me about the 9/11 conspiracies.  How did these people NOT see planes fly into those buildings?  I mean, that's sort of like watching a wildebeest stampede crush a village and then trying to blame all those flat huts on anything BUT wildebeest.

Boru

thats not at all the argument of most theorists.

I didn't present any arguments of any 9/11 crazies (I won't dignify them with the term 'theorists').

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
#98
RE: What do you believe in that hasnt been proven to exist?
(October 31, 2016 at 3:15 pm)Stimbo Wrote:
(October 31, 2016 at 2:58 pm)goombah111 Wrote: i presented my argument for controlled demolition.

No you didn't, you gave a pdf paper regarding molten steel and said you believe it was controlled demolition.

If that's your case, then there's nothing to assess. The one thing needs to substantiate the other. I could just as easily give a screengrab from Independence Day and say it was aliens.

Connect the dots. Make me believe what you believe.

(October 31, 2016 at 2:58 pm)goombah111 Wrote: so if you have no argument then we are done here.

I don't have a dog in this race. I'm not trying to prove anything, so of course I don't have an argument. I'm listening to yours

(October 31, 2016 at 2:58 pm)goombah111 Wrote: if you want to make an official stance for both of us, i suggest im for Controlled demolition, and im assuming your for Planes.

you prove planes, ill disprove planes.

ill prove controlled demo, you disprove controlled demo.

Once again, I'm not making a stance, official or otherwise. We have the situation as presented - the official version, if you like - and you are proposing something other than that. Make me see it.

Still, if you want me to prove planes: (image tucked away out of sensitivity)




Looks like a plane to me.
good job, you proved planes were there. 

now prove that they took down the towers. i can prove that they couldnt, or at least provide evidence to support it.

so are you going to be part of this discussion or not? 

if not, im not gonna sit here talking to myself

(October 31, 2016 at 3:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(October 31, 2016 at 3:25 pm)goombah111 Wrote: thats not at all the argument of most theorists.

I didn't present any arguments of any 9/11 crazies (I won't dignify them with the term 'theorists').

Boru

you said something about them not seeing planes...we saw planes, we just dont think they are the sole reason the towers fell.

especially WTC7
especially WTC7
especially WTC7
"Satan, who is the god of this world" 2 Corinthians 4:4 hath blinded the minds of them which believe not
#99
RE: What do you believe in that hasnt been proven to exist?
It's not my thesis that planes dropped those buildings. I'm not trying to prove anything.

Last call - make your case or leave the stage.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
RE: What do you believe in that hasnt been proven to exist?
(October 31, 2016 at 4:11 pm)Stimbo Wrote: It's not my thesis that planes dropped those buildings. I'm not trying to prove anything.

Last call - make your case or leave the stage.

my thread, gtfo.

i didnt want to prove anything, you asked to discuss it.
if you had any knowledge on this subject you might have shared it by now.
you believe blindly. you must be a theist.
"Satan, who is the god of this world" 2 Corinthians 4:4 hath blinded the minds of them which believe not



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