I am going to take one final stab at explaining what is wrong with your argument. Please try to pay attention.
Here is the argument you presented. Italics are my response.
1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
"God" here is really poorly defined. Big bang theory could be "God" by this concept. And you misuse the word "creator" to imply intent. No intent is evident.
2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
It may be outside of our minds, but it is INSIDE our universe, yet you are discussing a concept of something OUTSIDE our universe. INSIDE a bowl we observe balls are held into a half-sphere shape, but by no means does that tell us the same thing will happen OUTSIDE of that bowl. By the same token what we observe INSIDE our universe does not describe what happens OUTSIDE our universe and, in fact, if what happens outside were the same as what happens inside the universe becomes impossible.
3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
Again, ALWAYS "within" our universe, never outside of it. Since we cannot observe outside of our universe what happens here says nothing about what happens there.
4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.
Not true. As I have stated, our observations include only a very, VERY tiny portion of the inside of our own universe. We cannot even say with certainty that how things work here is the same across all of space and time and, in fact, there is some evidence to suggest that the laws of the universe are not uniform and that they do work differently elsewhere. If we can't even say with certainty that something is true in all of our universe then we certainly can't say with any certainty that these were the same laws which governed "not" our universe before it existed. And, again, if that were the case our universe would be impossible. Even God becomes impossible if he is bound by cause and effect.
5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of God, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
[/i]Again, not that any of this is actually true, but if it were, the concept of God is so vaguely defined as to be meaningless/[/i]
6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
A conclusion based on conjecture, misinformation, falsehoods, a fundamental misunderstanding of science and a definition so vague as to encompass literally anything I might like to describe as being "God". I could use this same argument to argue for big bang theory. Here is how:
1. Formulate the information of the concept of the Big Bang, thus:
"The Big Bang in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.
5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of Big Bang Theory, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
6. Conclusion: The Big Bang happened in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
The only change I made to your argument was to name "God".
Here is the argument you presented. Italics are my response.
1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
"God" here is really poorly defined. Big bang theory could be "God" by this concept. And you misuse the word "creator" to imply intent. No intent is evident.
2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
It may be outside of our minds, but it is INSIDE our universe, yet you are discussing a concept of something OUTSIDE our universe. INSIDE a bowl we observe balls are held into a half-sphere shape, but by no means does that tell us the same thing will happen OUTSIDE of that bowl. By the same token what we observe INSIDE our universe does not describe what happens OUTSIDE our universe and, in fact, if what happens outside were the same as what happens inside the universe becomes impossible.
3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
Again, ALWAYS "within" our universe, never outside of it. Since we cannot observe outside of our universe what happens here says nothing about what happens there.
4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.
Not true. As I have stated, our observations include only a very, VERY tiny portion of the inside of our own universe. We cannot even say with certainty that how things work here is the same across all of space and time and, in fact, there is some evidence to suggest that the laws of the universe are not uniform and that they do work differently elsewhere. If we can't even say with certainty that something is true in all of our universe then we certainly can't say with any certainty that these were the same laws which governed "not" our universe before it existed. And, again, if that were the case our universe would be impossible. Even God becomes impossible if he is bound by cause and effect.
5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of God, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
[/i]Again, not that any of this is actually true, but if it were, the concept of God is so vaguely defined as to be meaningless/[/i]
6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
A conclusion based on conjecture, misinformation, falsehoods, a fundamental misunderstanding of science and a definition so vague as to encompass literally anything I might like to describe as being "God". I could use this same argument to argue for big bang theory. Here is how:
1. Formulate the information of the concept of the Big Bang, thus:
"The Big Bang in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.
5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of Big Bang Theory, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
6. Conclusion: The Big Bang happened in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
The only change I made to your argument was to name "God".
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