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RE: Why Trump has won
November 10, 2016 at 3:17 pm
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2016 at 3:17 pm by GrandizerII.)
Vox.com is pissing me off now with the blatant pro-Hillary crap. Yeah, it was fun reading your bullshit rants against Trump for a while, but start acting like an unbiased source of news for fuck's sake. Your rantings did jack shit against Trump. Stop ranting and start reporting.
This goes for all other so-called objective but blatantly pro-Hillary media news sources.
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RE: Why Trump has won
November 10, 2016 at 3:28 pm
I don't even know what I am. Certainly not neo liberal, as it's being described. Or regressive liberal. I think PC did go too far and we're paying for it.
I hate trying to fit myself into a label box.
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RE: Why Trump has won
November 10, 2016 at 3:29 pm
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2016 at 3:37 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 10, 2016 at 12:09 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Doesn't change the fact that politics isn't image and offence. What they think is irrelevant to what it actually is. Projecting spurious pseudo-political fake opinions to mask an egoistic two-faced hypocritical agenda that doesn't actually hold political viewpoints and is all about self-rationalization and maintaining one's own individual self-image like a SJW (that doesn't really give a fuck about social justice and only cares about the appearance of it) =/= a political view.
I am reading you.
My bolding.
b-mine
Obviously not........what about "that -is- what politics is now" did I fail to communicate? Trump ran on "It's gonna be great" and Hillary ran on "He's a bigot". If I can't convince you, and this election can't convince you....what might convince you?
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RE: Why Trump has won
November 10, 2016 at 3:34 pm
(November 10, 2016 at 3:28 pm)Aroura Wrote: I don't even know what I am. Certainly not neo liberal, as it's being described. Or regressive liberal. I think PC did go too far and we're paying for it.
I hate trying to fit myself into a label box.
Back from our days at af.com, and remembering our interactions, how about just a nice person trying to get along? Like the vast majority of folks, incidentally.
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RE: Why Trump has won
November 10, 2016 at 3:43 pm
(November 10, 2016 at 3:34 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote: (November 10, 2016 at 3:28 pm)Aroura Wrote: I don't even know what I am. Certainly not neo liberal, as it's being described. Or regressive liberal. I think PC did go too far and we're paying for it.
I hate trying to fit myself into a label box.
Back from our days at af.com, and remembering our interactions, how about just a nice person trying to get along? Like the vast majority of folks, incidentally.
How is the old forum anyway, still chugging along it seems? I haven't been back in a while.
Thanks, and right back atcha. 
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RE: Why Trump has won
November 10, 2016 at 3:43 pm
(November 10, 2016 at 3:28 pm)Aroura Wrote: I don't even know what I am. Certainly not neo liberal, as it's being described. Or regressive liberal. I think PC did go too far and we're paying for it.
I hate trying to fit myself into a label box.
You're you and you're awesome. You don't need a label at all, all you need is your own good judgement and your vote. 
If you feel that a label helps you self-identity better... have you taken the political compass test?
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RE: Why Trump has won
November 10, 2016 at 3:44 pm
(November 10, 2016 at 3:28 pm)Aroura Wrote: I think PC did go too far
In what ways?
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RE: Why Trump has won
November 10, 2016 at 3:46 pm
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(November 10, 2016 at 3:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (November 10, 2016 at 12:09 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Doesn't change the fact that politics isn't image and offence. What they think is irrelevant to what it actually is. Projecting spurious pseudo-political fake opinions to mask an egoistic two-faced hypocritical agenda that doesn't actually hold political viewpoints and is all about self-rationalization and maintaining one's own individual self-image like a SJW (that doesn't really give a fuck about social justice and only cares about the appearance of it) =/= a political view.
I am reading you.
My bolding.
b-mine
Obviously not........what about "that -is- what politics is now" did I fail to communicate? Trump ran on "It's gonna be great" and Hillary ran on "He's a bigot". If I can't convince you, and this election can't convince you....what might convince you?
Politicians with their own selfish egoistic agendas =/= politics.
Politics is politics. It doesn't change when people start abusing it, that's just people abusing it.
I'm not a political person and I have no interest in politics because of the fuckers who abuse it. I'd be interested if there weren't corrupt fuckers in charge and an idiotic majority doing most of the voting while being misled by the corrupt fuckers in charge.
The problem isn't politics, it's the politicians and the public.
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RE: Why Trump has won
November 10, 2016 at 3:57 pm
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2016 at 4:02 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 10, 2016 at 3:46 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: (November 10, 2016 at 3:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: b-mine
Obviously not........what about "that -is- what politics is now" did I fail to communicate? Trump ran on "It's gonna be great" and Hillary ran on "He's a bigot". If I can't convince you, and this election can't convince you....what might convince you?
Politicians with their own selfish egoistic agendas =/= politics. Tell that to politicians and politics Ham...... 
Quote:Politics is politics. It doesn't change when people start abusing it, that's just people abusing it.
Whatever you say, I guess. You saying it doesn't seem to have any effect on them doing it.
Quote:I'm not a political person and I have no interest in politics because of the fuckers who abuse it. I'd be interested if there weren't corrupt fuckers in charge and an idiotic majority doing most of the voting while being misled by the corrupt fuckers in charge.
The problem isn't politics, it's the politicians and the public.
Politics is just what politicians -do-, Ham.... whatever that happens to be. If that's image and offense, guess what, tough titties, that's politics now. Personally, I've realized that no amount of "you guys are totally doing it wrong" works. If you want to win, you have to win from the inside. You have to take their model and subvert it.
So, these nubs wave a flag...I wave it harder and shame them for their limp-wristed flag waving. For example. Accept -everything- they say is true...because, honestly, do you want to argue that with idiots? GL.
Much more effective to show them that they're -still- wrong, even after you grant every idiotic thing they have to say.
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RE: Why Trump has won
November 10, 2016 at 4:08 pm
(November 10, 2016 at 3:43 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: (November 10, 2016 at 3:28 pm)Aroura Wrote: I don't even know what I am. Certainly not neo liberal, as it's being described. Or regressive liberal. I think PC did go too far and we're paying for it.
I hate trying to fit myself into a label box.
You're you and you're awesome. You don't need a label at all, all you need is your own good judgement and your vote.
If you feel that a label helps you self-identity better... have you taken the political compass test?
That test is balls, apparently I'm left wing ??
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