What is it with Trump supporters not wanting to discuss policy without name calling

[CanOfMountainDew]

... and most know when they're in the presence of an artist ...

Is he seriously still trying to say racism is subjective

and to your point thump yup

Racism is objective, but nobody can objectively know who is and is not a racist. Also things can't be racist; only minds can.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Is he seriously still trying to say racism is subjective

and to your point thump yup

Racism is objective, but nobody can objectively know who is and is not a racist.

I was taught growing up that actions speak louder than words. If it walks like a duck etc etc.

If someone is behaving in a racist manner, the most efficient explanation is that they're racist. If they not, maybe they should review their behavior with an eye to optics?

[Amarok]

Racism is objective, but nobody can objectively know who is and is not a racist.

I was taught growing up that actions speak louder than words. If it walks like a duck etc etc.

If someone is behaving in a racist manner, the most efficient explanation is that they're racist. If they not, maybe they should review their behavior with an eye to optics?

here here

But also remember that racist like anti semites are clever in avoiding overt shows of racism as I pointed out earlier if it is in a racist interest to act against his beliefs he will though they do tend to slip up

[The Grand Nudger]

That's the point I was making, that I think it would be reasonable to extend the definition of racism to preferential treatment of certain races.

That wouldn't be racism.

Or possibly just preferential thoughts of certain races.

That -is- racism, it's very nearly the textbook definition of racism.....................

[Tiberius]

Ok, to the liberals in this thread saying that the KKK endorsing Trump makes Trump a racist:

STOP IT

Its a terrible argument and terrible use of logic. Moreover, its guilt by association, where the association wasn't even asked for by Trump.

If someone endorses you, it means that someone likes you. It doesn't imply ANY inverse relationship.

Think of it this way. If a racist came onto this forum and kudosed a post you made, maybe kudosed every post you made, said you were the best poster here, does that make you a racist? Fuck no. So stop applying the same argument to other things.

There *is* an argument that refusing to acknowledge or reject the KKK's endorsement is subtly racist, but it's a very weak argument. Go by the actions and words of the person that are obviously racist, or people will call you on it.

[Pat Mustard]

Ok, to the liberals in this thread saying that the KKK endorsing Trump makes Trump a racist:

STOP IT

Its a terrible argument and terrible use of logic. Moreover, its guilt by association, where the association wasn't even asked for by Trump.

If someone endorses you, it means that someone likes you. It doesn't imply ANY inverse relationship.

I call Trump a racist because he ran an openly racist campaign, early on pretty much calling all Mexicans in the US rapists, and getting worse from there. The KKK endorsement is simply the pus cherry on that particular shit sandwich.

[Amarok]

Ok, to the liberals in this thread saying that the KKK endorsing Trump makes Trump a racist:

STOP IT

Its a terrible argument and terrible use of logic. Moreover, its guilt by association, where the association wasn't even asked for by Trump.

If someone endorses you, it means that someone likes you. It doesn't imply ANY inverse relationship.

I call Trump a racist because he ran an openly racist campaign, early on pretty much calling all Mexicans in the US rapists, and getting worse from there. The KKK endorsement is simply the pus cherry on that particular shit sandwich.

the Xenos will argue that Mexicans are not a race because yeah trump was talking about white Mexicans in that speech (eye roll) and not Latinos and that so wasn't what his followers were thinking .And then they will say that he also said some were good people but he tried that more like an suggestion then a belief He really held .To be fair thou there is one thing he loves about Mexico the tons of products he's had made there.

As for the KKK endorsement in addressed that in my last post

[Neo-Scholastic]

There *is* an argument that refusing to acknowledge or reject the KKK's endorsement is subtly racist, but it's a very weak argument.

In generally, I think it is beneath the dignity of the high offices to spend their time denouncing and disowning the comments of knuckle-headed celebrities, petty tyrants, and nutjobs. Some obscure up-and-coming journalist puts a microphone in front of an attention seeking ass-wipe and all of a sudden it's on cable news for the next three days. No one cares except political opportunists and idiot pundits that need new sensational material for their talk-shows.

[abaris]

Ok, to the liberals in this thread saying that the KKK endorsing Trump makes Trump a racist:

STOP IT

Its a terrible argument and terrible use of logic. Moreover, its guilt by association, where the association wasn't even asked for by Trump.

If someone endorses you, it means that someone likes you. It doesn't imply ANY inverse relationship.

Think of it this way. If a racist came onto this forum and kudosed a post you made, maybe kudosed every post you made, said you were the best poster here, does that make you a racist? Fuck no. So stop applying the same argument to other things.

There *is* an argument that refusing to acknowledge or reject the KKK's endorsement is subtly racist, but it's a very weak argument. Go by the actions and words of the person that are obviously racist, or people will call you on it.

He's the first presidential candidate in history - to my knowledge - being endorsed by these groups/persons. That means they liked the message. And it's certainly not on the same lines as a kudos. It's more like a rep, if you want to go down the forum road. I got one from one I consider at least partially racist, but that rep got removed, since I didn't hold back with my opinions. Trump's rep hasn't been removed from start to finish.

So either he did a very poor job wording his message or he simply played to his natural charms for getting these kinds of endorsments.

[CanOfMountainDew]

Ok, to the liberals in this thread saying that the KKK endorsing Trump makes Trump a racist:

STOP IT

Its a terrible argument and terrible use of logic. Moreover, its guilt by association, where the association wasn't even asked for by Trump.

If someone endorses you, it means that someone likes you. It doesn't imply ANY inverse relationship.

Think of it this way. If a racist came onto this forum and kudosed a post you made, maybe kudosed every post you made, said you were the best poster here, does that make you a racist? Fuck no. So stop applying the same argument to other things.

There *is* an argument that refusing to acknowledge or reject the KKK's endorsement is subtly racist, but it's a very weak argument. Go by the actions and words of the person that are obviously racist, or people will call you on it.

He's the first presidential candidate in history - to my knowledge - being endorsed by these groups/persons. That means they liked the message. And it's certainly not on the same lines as a kudos. It's more like a rep, if you want to go down the forum road. I got one from one I consider at least partially racist, but that rep got removed, since I didn't hold back with my opinions. Trump's rep hasn't been removed from start to finish.

So either he did a very poor job wording his message or he simply played to his natural charms for getting these kinds of endorsments.

That's a false dichotomy. Another, alternative instance: That someone, or some group, may support a candidate not on the basis that they think the candidate is great, but rather on the basis that they hate the competing candidate more.

Also, an interesting tidbit for you: the suffragetes - that is; first-wave feminism - had the support of the KKK.