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The problem with muslims...
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(June 26, 2011 at 9:24 pm)twocompulsive Wrote: Regarding Empire : I would only state that there are those who wish we still had one. They may be in a minority but nevertheless. And you are absolutely right. I should not reference something that you personally had nothing to do with [ although your avatar / username does implies respect for imperialism nonetheless ! ]

Even if I did happen to have respect for imperialism (not that I do) it's still irrelevant to the point being discussed.


(June 26, 2011 at 11:24 pm)Judas BentHer Wrote: To my understanding, Fundamentalism is tantamount to ultra-right wing conservative. And this would apply in both Islam and Christianity.
Therefore, the moderate point of view would be just that. Not in keeping to the fundamentalist tenets and doctrines described as rite and practice, in the Koran. Islam in moderation, as it were.

However, I think it necessary to interject here that these are terms, in reference to "Moderate" and "Fundamentalist" Islam, that are afforded in dialog regarding Islam and Muslims, by non-Muslims. For, to the Muslim, Islam is Islam.

The terms of differentiation, i.e. moderate and fundamentalist (often connoted as extremist or terrorist) Muslim are terms originated by western media so as to pander to political correctness that expects descriptions of violence in the name of Islam be described in a way that does not indict all Muslims as violent.

Ask any Muslim whether they are a moderate or a fundamentalist, and I suspect one would receive an odd look at the very least.

That's a good point you make. I understand the terms like 'moderate' and 'fundamentalist' are concepts made up by us, but I still like to use them as a descriptive element for the points I'm trying to get across Big Grin
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(June 26, 2011 at 11:24 pm)Judas BentHer Wrote: To my understanding, Fundamentalism is tantamount to ultra-right wing conservative. And this would apply in both Islam and Christianity.

That is the connotation fundamentalism has now, but originally it was meant to describe people who wanted to take religion back to the fundamentals, thus the name. Fundamentalism arose in the three Abrahamic religions during the latter half of the second millennium due to the fact that science was becoming the predominant way of understanding the world instead of religion. Things like the literal interpretation of the bible arose from this. In fact, it is generally believed that before this time it was accepted by most that the bible was metaphorical. Literal interpretation didn't come about until someone decided to dissect the bible scientifically, but rather than doing that they just declared the bible to be 'pure science.'
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#53
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Yes, radical fundamentalism is a redundancy.

It does seem to apply to some Muslims, though.
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(June 27, 2011 at 1:49 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Yes, radical fundamentalism is a redundancy.

It does seem to apply to some Muslims, though.

...and some Christians too. The Westboro Baptists Coven for example.

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Oh, hell yes. Those fucks belong in a cave.
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That is one scary fucking picture!
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It's Deitygol.
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(June 27, 2011 at 2:21 pm)Napoleon Wrote: That is one scary fucking picture!

Is this one any better?
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(June 27, 2011 at 2:33 pm)DaveD Wrote:
(June 27, 2011 at 2:21 pm)Napoleon Wrote: That is one scary fucking picture!

Is this one any better?


LMAO I gave you a rep for the first one, the second is pure class!
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Holy fuck ... what is that?
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