(March 27, 2017 at 7:59 am)Alex K Wrote: Yes, in order it would be Clinton Dick
Even that needs to be shortened.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins?
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 Even that needs to be shortened. 
Don't you mean circumcised?
 (March 26, 2017 at 10:26 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: I for one think that he is quite an intelligent guy. I think he has written some great books. I have only read one of them and that was called The God Delusional. But to be quite honest, whenever I hear him speak I have found that he comes off as quite smug and seems to talk down to those with other opinions. I'm an agnostic not I am not atheist nor Christian, so maybe I am a little biased. The God Delusional? You're an agnostic but not an atheist or a theist? You can't have read very far.  RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins?
March 27, 2017 at 12:26 pm
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(March 26, 2017 at 10:26 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: I'm an agnostic not I am not atheist nor Christian, so maybe I am a little biased. Not to pile on what others have already said, if the question is "do you currently BELIEVE that a god exists?", and you answer anything other than "yes", you are an atheist. All that it takes to be an atheist, is to not be convinced that a god exists. "Agnosticism" is the position that it is currently unknown if a god exists (and possibly unknowable), it is NOT some sort of fence sitting position between belief that a god exists, and disbelief. That is the colloquial definition, not the formal one. Not only that, but it is my contention, that fence sitting between belief and disbelief is not even possible. Belief is a binary mental state. Either one accepts a premise or proposition is true, or they do not have that belief. Most atheists are "agnostic atheists" ( the 2 positions are not mutually exclusive), even Dawkins. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.  (March 26, 2017 at 10:26 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: I for one think that he is quite an intelligent guy. I think he has written some great books. I have only read one of them and that was called The God Delusional. But to be quite honest, whenever I hear him speak I have found that he comes off as quite smug and seems to talk down to those with other opinions. I'm an agnostic not I am not atheist nor Christian, so maybe I am a little biased. I loved it in his series the "root of all evil" when he described a group of nuns as a "benign herd" of believers. You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. 
Condescending prick
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh 
 (March 27, 2017 at 7:18 am)Alex K Wrote:Thanks. I peeked in for a quick view and ended up watching the entire video.(March 27, 2017 at 6:27 am)chimp3 Wrote: I have enjoyed his books ,lectures, and debates. I have heard the criticisms but I do not see what the critics are seeing. I hope he is recovering from the stroke.
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!
 RE: What are your thoughts on Richard Dawkins?
March 27, 2017 at 9:33 pm
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(March 27, 2017 at 12:26 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(March 26, 2017 at 10:26 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: I'm an agnostic not I am not atheist nor Christian, so maybe I am a little biased. It really grinds my gears when I hear an "agnostic" say that they "neither believe nor disbelieve in a god", as if such a middle ground exists. To disbelieve something is to not believe something. Saying anything/anyone is neither X or its direct logical negation is in violation of the logical absolutes, which is asinine. It's like saying "I neither like nor don't like Coca Cola". Also, "do you believe in god" is a yes/no question. When "agnostics" answer with "I don't know", that means (a) their answer is actually no, and (b) they didn't even answer the question properly. I really wish people could get this right.
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