Why can't Christians accept the fact that Hitler was a Christian

[Huggy Bear]

Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".

Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians...

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Yeah, it does, You claim it, you own it, they are all fruit. 

What you have here is your christian sliding scale.

Really? What happened to needing evidence to support a claim?

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The word "christian" literally means to be like Christ.

No..it doesn't, lol.  I guess you dodged a bullet on that one though.  You wouldn't exactly pass the litmus test.  Christians are people who believe in christ.  That, Huggy, is what the word means - literally and practically.  That's all it means.  Everything else is up for grabs.

Christ -ian

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ian

Suffix
-ian

1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
   
2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
   

You were saying?

[Chad32]

Always funny when people want to act offended that a guy who was on this planet solely to get killed, got himself killed.

Are we back to no free will in the presence of an omniscient god?

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Just because someone claims to be a christian doesn't mean they ARE a christian... "by their fruit ye shall know them".

Doesn't Trump claim to be a christian yet pronounced second Corinthians as "two" Corinthians...

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Yeah, it does, You claim it, you own it, they are all fruit. 

What you have here is your christian sliding scale.

I imagine god must have hardened their hearts, like what he did to the pharaoh, to get the result he wanted. While it doesn't explicitly say that, there is precedence for such a thing. Besides that, if Jesus' death was such a good thing, then why the anger at the people who did you a favor?

[The Grand Nudger]

No..it doesn't, lol.  I guess you dodged a bullet on that one though.  You wouldn't exactly pass the litmus test.  Christians are people who believe in christ.  That, Huggy, is what the word means - literally and practically.  That's all it means.  Everything else is up for grabs.

Christ -ian

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ian

Suffix
-ian

1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
   
2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
   

You were saying?

That you're a complete idiot, lol.  So I guess a grecian is someone who is like greece?  A magician is someone who is like magic?  A logician is someone who is like logic? L2words.

A christian is a person who believes in christ. You think that some christiuans are bad christians™ but that hardly makes them less christian, and more than a few sects take it as a matter of faith that all men are -consigned- to be bad christians™ by default of their fallen nature. You, yourself, meet the criteria for a bad christian, but do not meet your own "christ-like" nonsense. So, I guess, you can have it whatever way you want it, if it means enough to you to embarass yourself while simultaneously ruling -yourself- out as a True Christian™.

[brewer]

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Yeah, it does, You claim it, you own it, they are all fruit. 

What you have here is your christian sliding scale.

Really? What happened to needing evidence to support a claim?

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No..it doesn't, lol.  I guess you dodged a bullet on that one though.  You wouldn't exactly pass the litmus test.  Christians are people who believe in christ.  That, Huggy, is what the word means - literally and practically.  That's all it means.  Everything else is up for grabs.

Christ -ian

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ian

Suffix
-ian

1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
   
2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
   

You were saying?

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Thanks.

[The Grand Nudger]

I think Huggy got hit with allah envy at some point.  Muslim means something cool, christian means something boring and dull, lol.

[Huggy Bear]

Christ -ian

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ian

Suffix
-ian

1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
   
2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
   

You were saying?

That you're a complete idiot, lol.  So I guess a grecian is someone who is like greece?  A magician is someone who is like magic?  A logician is someone who is like logic?  L2words.

Do you think you're arguing against me or the actual definition?

Suffix
-ian

1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
   
2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
   
3. (as a noun) Having a certain profession.
   

What I posted clearly stated that -ian means either FROM, RELATED TO, OR LIKE.

So Grecian would mean someone or somthing that is FROM or RELATED TO greece...

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/grecian

Grecian

adjective

Relating to ancient Greece, especially its architecture.



Is there anything else you need schooling on?

[brewer]

These people in question who say they are christians, but that you profess are not christians, are then considered liars/false?

Or are they just really bad at being christian? 

If liars, I'm gonna have to give different consideration to the Pew research numbers. Huggy, can you give me some idea/percent of how many out there are false christians?

[Huggy Bear]

Really? What happened to needing evidence to support a claim?

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Christ -ian

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ian

Suffix
-ian

1. (as an adjective) From, related to, or like.
   
2. (as a noun) One from, belonging to, relating to, or like.
   

You were saying?

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Thanks.

FROM = Geographically

BELONGING TO = Profession.

Romans 8
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

*emphasis mine*
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/image
image
A person or thing that closely resembles another.
‘he's the image of his father’

Semblance or likeness.
‘made in the image of God’

Therefore 'Christian' means to be like Christ...

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These people in question who say they are christians, but that you profess are not christians, are then considered liars/false?

Or are they just really bad at being christian? 

If liars, I'm gonna have to give different consideration to the Pew research numbers. Huggy, can you give me some idea/percent of how many out there are false christians?

Are they the image of Christ? if not they aren't Christian, its that simple.

The false christian are the majority.

Matthew 7
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Did not 2 million Hebrews leave Egypt yet only 2 out of the 2 million entered the promised land?

[brewer]

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Thanks.

FROM = Geographically

BELONGING TO = Profession.

Romans 8
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

*emphasis mine*
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/image
image
A person or thing that closely resembles another.
‘he's the image of his father’

Semblance or likeness.
‘made in the image of God’

Therefore 'Christian' means to be like Christ...

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These people in question who say they are christians, but that you profess are not christians, are then considered liars/false?

Or are they just really bad at being christian? 

If liars, I'm gonna have to give different consideration to the Pew research numbers. Huggy, can you give me some idea/percent of how many out there are false christians?

Are they the image of Christ? if not they aren't Christian, its that simple.

The false christian are the majority.

Matthew 7
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Did not 2 million Hebrews leave Egypt yet only 2 out of the 2 million entered the promised land?

OK, good to know. I'll let SteveII know that his numbers are way off. 

So, is this "false christian" limited to an individual vase by case basis or can we eliminate whole sects?

[The Grand Nudger]

There's no sword to stupid for Huggy to fall on, it seems.  If all the True Christians™ have suddenly disappeared, somebody ought to inform their next of kin.